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> 914 Water pump, Yes a SBC
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post Oct 20 2009, 01:51 PM
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I'm replacing my Renegade/Chrysler BB pump, since it locked up last night. I didn't here any noise at all ? The engine does make a bit of noise but you would think there would be some warning. Nope ! Maybe something broke off and jammed up the impeller etc. The pump just locked up and melted the drive belt.
My question is I have been running a standard pump and decided to get a high volume unit. My assumption is the quality is better than my last one and with A/C it might perform better moving more water. I guess with more pressure comes it own set of issues. One thought is the belt was too tight, and that's a good bet.
I'm not running a Thermostat but am running a minor restriction in the thermostat housing, which I think I should remove.. ?

Any one have any input here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)
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post Nov 19 2009, 10:43 PM
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I thought I would share to the V8 guys what I ended up doing. I used the standard pulley, shelved the smaller one for now. I ordered a pump via ebay that has a cast impeller which states it moves 30% more water.
When I got the pump I found it wouldn't fit in the Renegade housing, so I spent a few hours porting the housing to accommodate the pump. I took time to grind out only what was needed for a tight fit. There was some shaping involved to accommodate the larger oval shaped impeller. I got it to spin free without the gasket installed, then boiled and froze the unit to make sure its not going to hit during expansion or contraction. I used clay as well to guide the porting process.

I've had the pump in operation for 2 days and the overall cooling system is working much better than the 8 paddle stamped steel unit. I installed a pressure gauge because at 3k I could feel the coolant hose expand a bit. The pressures are moving between 5 and 14 psi, that works for me. There's no dough this pump moves more water and thus cools better.
I am going to set up the smaller pulley in a week or so and see how the system responds to the different ratio.
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drive-ability   914 Water pump   Oct 20 2009, 01:51 PM
Bruce Hinds   I had some of the same issues, and found that ther...   Oct 20 2009, 02:59 PM
JRust   Are you going with another belt driven water pump?...   Oct 20 2009, 03:11 PM
drive-ability   people talk about the speed the water goes through...   Oct 20 2009, 03:33 PM
dakotaewing   In regard to electric water pumps, it appears that...   Oct 20 2009, 04:05 PM
drive-ability   I have seen that electric pump and do like the ove...   Oct 20 2009, 04:24 PM
SLITS   The speed of flow thru the radiator greatly effect...   Oct 20 2009, 06:18 PM
drive-ability   The speed of flow thru the radiator greatly effec...   Oct 20 2009, 09:42 PM
burton73   I went over this with Rod Simpson at his shop the ...   Oct 20 2009, 07:38 PM
charliew   It's sorta like when you use a paint spray gun...   Oct 20 2009, 09:54 PM
andys   Meziere makes a real nice looking mechanical (belt...   Oct 21 2009, 02:19 PM
computers4kids   TC just lost his Renegade "chrysler" pum...   Oct 21 2009, 06:20 PM
drive-ability   I just got my new pump from Edelbrock, well it won...   Oct 21 2009, 07:13 PM
SLITS   I don't remember when you started the last thr...   Oct 21 2009, 08:40 PM
computers4kids   The gasket should be a Fel-Pro 11730 Jerry ...   Oct 21 2009, 09:26 PM
SLITS   Here are your answers: 1.) the image I showed hi...   Oct 22 2009, 03:12 PM
Bruce Hinds   Thanks for the Interesting thread on the water pum...   Oct 22 2009, 04:04 PM
SLITS   Renegade tried an electric pump on at least one 91...   Oct 22 2009, 06:20 PM
charliew   While you are studying you might look at the reaso...   Oct 22 2009, 07:02 PM
burton73   I would look to the quality of the machine work of...   Oct 23 2009, 05:32 PM
computers4kids   ouch http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-909...   Oct 23 2009, 10:41 PM
drive-ability   ouch http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-90...   Oct 24 2009, 12:11 AM
computers4kids   I would have dismissed this whole water pump incid...   Oct 24 2009, 08:42 AM
SLITS   There is nothing to say other than there could hav...   Oct 24 2009, 10:39 AM
drive-ability   I have had some time to drive the car and have fou...   Oct 27 2009, 09:10 PM
SLITS   8 vane moves water slower .... low rpm even slower...   Oct 27 2009, 09:15 PM
drive-ability   8 vane moves water slower .... low rpm even slowe...   Oct 27 2009, 09:49 PM
drive-ability   I have found the 6 vane pumps (Chrysler 440) work ...   Oct 28 2009, 11:02 PM
burton73   I have found the 6 vane pumps (Chrysler 440) work...   Oct 29 2009, 02:06 PM
SLITS   How many do you want? Stamped steel Cast iron. ...   Oct 29 2009, 02:24 PM
drive-ability   How many do you want? Stamped steel Cast iron. ...   Oct 29 2009, 04:47 PM
SLITS   Ok, last shot at this subject. The man I am talki...   Oct 29 2009, 06:22 PM
burton73   Ok, last shot at this subject. The man I am talk...   Oct 30 2009, 08:55 PM
computers4kids   Ok, last shot at this subject. The man I am tal...   Oct 30 2009, 11:01 PM
Bruce Hinds   Sorry for the diversion, but has anyone used an el...   Oct 29 2009, 07:00 PM
drive-ability   :clap: Thank You, I now understand there was allot...   Oct 29 2009, 07:07 PM
svsv   :clap: Thank You, I now understand there was allo...   Oct 29 2009, 09:30 PM
charliew   One thing I remember is that a temp sensor in the ...   Oct 29 2009, 10:28 PM
drive-ability   Was thinking about a smaller pulley, so looking ar...   Nov 8 2009, 10:14 PM
charliew   I'm not sure I follow the idea of a smaller ho...   Nov 9 2009, 10:45 AM
Phoenix-MN   I'm not sure I follow the idea of a smaller h...   Nov 9 2009, 11:09 AM
GS Guy   Pretty sure the "Renegade way" is to use...   Nov 9 2009, 06:45 PM
drive-ability   I'm not sure of anything that's the reason...   Nov 9 2009, 08:14 PM
computers4kids   don't run a thermostat: When I spoke to you ...   Nov 9 2009, 08:23 PM
drive-ability   don't run a thermostat: When I spoke to you...   Nov 9 2009, 10:07 PM
charliew   The quicker a motor gets up to 200f the better it ...   Nov 10 2009, 09:13 AM
drive-ability   I thought I would share to the V8 guys what I ende...   Nov 19 2009, 10:43 PM
computers4kids   Thanks for keeping us informed on your progress. ...   Nov 20 2009, 09:17 AM


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