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> 904 mainshafts, Anyone interested in repros?
Dr Evil
post Dec 3 2009, 08:41 PM
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I am checking interest in repro 904 main shafts. I think I can get them either made or made out of 901 shafts for much less than the $1800-2000 that they are commanding now.
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post Dec 12 2009, 11:12 AM
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... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ...Racer chris, Dr. Evil., Jp stein,R towel,Brant,and others....This is a very intresting Post I hope it continues into some detail ..such as what gears/ ratios would be suitable ...for...street use...autocrossing...and road racing/ D.E. track days......there are plenty of gear charts available (thanks Dr,evil) and others...but as J.P.Stein pointed out, FINDING some of the gears can be difficult/impossable. From experience I am not a fan of aftermarket gears. they are usually not properly HEAT TREATED to about 58/59 on the rockwell "c" scale. I had numerious "reproductions" break.(not 901 transmissions). I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE A LARGE SIZE (poster size) 901 914 transmission blueprint/ diagram, or something of quality/ detail that could be blown up. From what LITTLE I know about the existing possibilities for regearing , removing and welding on a different 2nd gear seems to be the most cost effective. It also seems to be a reliable way to go. However if a mainshaft were made / remachined which would allow interchangable 2nd / 3rd gears in 2nd gear position that may be a better option for some people. I think that both of you should be concerned about quality. welding on the mainshaft may aneal the shaft and gear. It may require rehardning to get back to O.E.M. specs. Making a new shaft will require a hardning process. both process will require quality control on strightness. I think what you guys want to do is great and needed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post Dec 12 2009, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(ME733 @ Dec 12 2009, 12:12 PM) *

I think that both of you should be concerned about quality. welding on the mainshaft may aneal the shaft and gear. It may require rehardning to get back to O.E.M. specs.

I'm way ahead-a ya... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I make sure that I am not heating the gear teeth or the shaft core enough to soften them. As I mentioned before, the material is prone to hot cracking when the gear is welded on - so going slowly, keeping heat input to a minimum, and making sure the weld endpoints are properly filled is of utmost importance.
I did repair and assembly welding for machine shops for years so I have plenty of experience with hard-to-weld alloys, highly restrained weld joints and precision build-up for re-machining. This stuff isn't that difficult, it just takes time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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Dr Evil   904 mainshafts, Anyone interested in repros?   Dec 3 2009, 08:41 PM
Phoenix-MN   If the price was right, yes. I would probably do ...   Dec 3 2009, 08:47 PM
iamchappy   You might want to find out if this guy still has a...   Dec 3 2009, 08:48 PM
r_towle   Ottos Venice made a run of them and lowered the pr...   Dec 3 2009, 09:55 PM
FourBlades   What is the advantage of 904 main shafts? John   Dec 3 2009, 10:07 PM
ottox914   What is the advantage of 904 main shafts? John ...   Dec 3 2009, 10:31 PM
McMark   Interchangeable second gear.   Dec 3 2009, 10:28 PM
Racer Chris   If you just want a taller second gear but won...   Dec 4 2009, 05:51 AM
Dr Evil   Its looking like the cost will be far less than th...   Dec 7 2009, 11:40 PM
Racer Chris   Since I've always welded the new gear on I hav...   Dec 8 2009, 02:50 AM
Dr Evil   Nice! The only thing is that the swapable 2nd ...   Dec 8 2009, 12:00 PM
stownsen914   There are certain ratios from 4 speed 901s, like H...   Dec 8 2009, 01:23 PM
brant   Chris, at $400-ish, I'm interested in b...   Dec 8 2009, 01:28 PM
davep   I recall some posts on Pelican written by Grady Cl...   Dec 8 2009, 03:36 PM
Racer Chris   Would welding be cheaper than splining? Welding ...   Dec 8 2009, 07:28 PM
r_towle   Would welding be cheaper than splining? Welding...   Dec 8 2009, 08:02 PM
J P Stein   Best get your parts before you start. The gears ra...   Dec 8 2009, 03:44 PM
brant   Best get your parts before you start. The gears r...   Dec 8 2009, 06:02 PM
Racer Chris   Rich, I don't think a gear specialty machine s...   Dec 12 2009, 09:23 AM
brant   Rich, I don't think a gear specialty machine ...   Dec 12 2009, 07:25 PM
jd74914   Edit: Hijack removed, Will send PM. :)   Dec 12 2009, 11:03 AM
ME733   ... :popcorn: ...Racer chris, Dr. Evil., Jp stein,...   Dec 12 2009, 11:12 AM
Racer Chris   I think that both of you should be concerned abou...   Dec 12 2009, 01:21 PM
J P Stein   Mine was/is a specialty box. ....tain't worth ...   Dec 13 2009, 12:03 PM
ME733   :popcorn: ...J.P.STEIN...I think you are ...(not)....   Dec 13 2009, 05:32 PM
J P Stein   :popcorn: ...J.P.STEIN...I think you are ...(not)...   Dec 14 2009, 07:46 AM
Racer Chris   Last week I dropped off 4 mainshafts at my machini...   Dec 30 2009, 02:20 AM
Racer Chris   Last week I dropped off 4 mainshafts at my machin...   Mar 2 2010, 05:02 PM
J P Stein   Now I can show a pic of the CSOB special trans. It...   Dec 30 2009, 10:20 AM
McMark   That's RAD, JP. :notworthy:   Dec 30 2009, 11:18 AM
Dr Evil   Pretty cool :thumbsup:   Dec 30 2009, 11:28 AM
J P Stein   We ran it for a season with all the gears intact b...   Dec 31 2009, 10:33 AM


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