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> What do you have for chassis stiffening?
What is neccessary to race on slicks
What do you have for chassis stiffening?
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Patrick Motorsprts kit/ Rear engine area [ 2 ] ** [2.27%]
Both [ 4 ] ** [4.55%]
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None [ 12 ] ** [13.64%]
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What is chassis stiffening? [ 1 ] ** [1.14%]
Do you race on slicks? (I guess its not racing if your not)
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no [ 54 ] ** [61.36%]
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Justinp71
post Sep 29 2008, 07:14 PM
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I put some more horsepower in my car, so far I have just autocrossed it on street tires. I have the bolt in roll bar that has the mid bar going to the floor.

Besides that my chassis is stock and I am wondering what I should do for more re-enforcement... so I can comfortably run on slicks.

Below is a photo of the roll bar. I don't consider the roll bar to give to much chassis stiffening, but it just might help with cracking the longs.

Edit: I mainly just use the car for street and the occasional Autocross or DE


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post Dec 12 2009, 03:55 PM
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Joe, My car does that with an autopower rollbar bolted in.

This is why it would be nice to actually MEASURE flex before and after.

Stiffening is great, and 914s need a bunch of it, but it's pretty hard to just eyeball a car and tell where it needs stiffening without some way to measure it, otherwise you're just welding lots of tubing into it and going "well that looks good", with no idea which bits actually helped and which bits didn't. The car will probably be faster and feel better afterwards, but could you have accomplished the same thing with less weight?

It cost me $500 for my aluminum pressure plate to lose a couple pounds and it is going to cost me another $500 for a fiberglass trunklid to lose a few more pounds after that. I'm sure as hell not going to add 20lbs of steel tubing until I know for sure what it's going to do.
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Justinp71   What do you have for chassis stiffening?   Sep 29 2008, 07:14 PM
SirAndy   I've got a full cage but it's not tied int...   Sep 29 2008, 09:04 PM
sww914   Judging from the cars that I've fixed, if you ...   Sep 29 2008, 11:40 PM
dlestep   ...I am welding the rear stiffening kit on my car ...   Sep 29 2008, 11:42 PM
Justinp71   ...I am welding the rear stiffening kit on my car...   Oct 1 2008, 10:38 AM
Joe Ricard   Engman longs and a roll bar tied to rear shock tow...   Sep 30 2008, 05:57 AM
Justinp71   Thanks guys! <_< It sounds like for t...   Sep 30 2008, 07:07 PM
dakotaewing   I have Brad Maures (sp) Outer Long kit, and Chris...   Sep 30 2008, 10:10 PM
Justinp71   I have Brad Maures (sp) Outer Long kit, and Chris...   Sep 30 2008, 11:05 PM
jcd914   OK I guess maybe I should not be voting since the ...   Sep 30 2008, 11:59 PM
Justinp71   Well Thanks for posting anyhow Jim! When you ...   Oct 1 2008, 10:37 AM
the4u2   how much flex is to much? have one that flex 8mm ,...   Oct 1 2008, 01:07 PM
J P Stein   There are a pee pot load of do-dads sold to make y...   Oct 2 2008, 08:58 AM
9146986   The last full project car I built had Brad Mayeur...   Oct 2 2008, 08:59 AM
naro914   I've been racing or DEing our 914 since 1994, ...   Oct 2 2008, 08:14 PM
Justinp71   Does the Engman kit reduce body flex? Or just keep...   Oct 3 2008, 04:20 PM
jcd914   Does the Engman kit reduce body flex? Or just kee...   Oct 11 2008, 08:56 PM
ConeDodger   Does the Engman kit reduce body flex? Or just kee...   Dec 4 2008, 10:47 PM
John   An area that seems to crack and few discuss is whe...   Oct 23 2008, 08:28 PM
J P Stein   Tieing in the longs to the towers is gud. Tieing i...   Dec 7 2008, 02:30 PM
Justinp71   Well my conclusion for my more street oriented car...   Jan 14 2009, 01:20 AM
9146986   I forgot to add that I welded up all the seams I c...   Jan 14 2009, 10:06 AM
Justinp71   Did you race or a/x the car that you are describin...   Jan 14 2009, 12:22 PM
9146986   The customer that I built the car for did autocros...   Jan 14 2009, 12:37 PM
Justinp71   No cage, correct?   Jan 14 2009, 01:53 PM
charliew   What makes these little cars attractive is their l...   Jan 16 2009, 08:48 AM
Simon Tibbett   I am new to 914's and looking into getting one...   May 29 2009, 10:13 AM
jt914-6   I have Brad's long. kit, GT kit, boxed trailin...   Jun 1 2009, 08:50 AM
jhadler   In the first photo there, it looks like you are dr...   Jun 1 2009, 02:11 PM
jt914-6   Josh, yes I'm using the cooler heat for the wi...   Jun 1 2009, 03:25 PM
J P Stein   After bonking my helmeted haid on my cage halo, I ...   Jun 8 2009, 05:47 PM
Joe Ricard   JP would you please show me your engine lid? Lik...   Jun 9 2009, 05:51 AM
J P Stein   I don't have a pic of it, go figure. I made a ...   Jun 9 2009, 07:38 AM
Joe Ricard   Metal? My car will have bare minimum of metal....   Jun 9 2009, 09:15 AM
J P Stein   Metal? My car will have bare minimum of metal...   Jun 9 2009, 11:13 AM
Joe Ricard   Yea PM me with your thoughts. I'm a looking a...   Jun 9 2009, 11:26 AM
J P Stein   Yea PM me with your thoughts. I'm a looking ...   Jun 9 2009, 02:51 PM
Chris Hamilton   Has anyone measured the amount of flex they had be...   Aug 30 2009, 05:36 PM
Britain Smith   Didn't measure it, but we felt it in JP's ...   Sep 17 2009, 11:54 AM
Joe Ricard   I can 3 point lift my car and it stays level. get...   Dec 9 2009, 07:11 AM
Chris Hamilton   Joe, My car does that with an autopower rollbar bo...   Dec 12 2009, 03:55 PM
J P Stein   It doesn't take an engineering degree to see ...   Dec 12 2009, 07:01 PM
Randal   It doesn't take an engineering degree to see...   Dec 12 2009, 10:05 PM
J P Stein   I've taken JP's approach on adding fro...   Dec 13 2009, 11:06 AM
Randal   It doesn't take an engineering degree to se...   Mar 31 2014, 07:59 PM
Chris Hamilton   It doesn't take an engineering degree to see...   Dec 13 2009, 03:02 PM
J P Stein   I've been building stuff for 40 odd years....m...   Dec 13 2009, 04:00 PM
Joe Ricard   Chris there is no way your bolt in autopower cage ...   Dec 13 2009, 05:14 PM
J P Stein   BTW, our trip down to your house at Marina was qua...   Dec 13 2009, 05:56 PM
Chris Hamilton   JP, it will be fun to see how Andrew and Britain d...   Dec 13 2009, 07:05 PM
J P Stein   Brit is headed down that way for the SD National T...   Dec 14 2009, 08:30 AM
Joe Ricard   Raced in the little pond yesterday. PCA had an ev...   Dec 14 2009, 10:52 AM
Randal   Raced in the little pond yesterday. PCA had an e...   Mar 31 2014, 08:02 PM
Joe Ricard   Geeze I was reading this thinking wtf did I do? ...   Apr 1 2014, 05:53 AM
Randal   Geeze I was reading this thinking wtf did I do? ...   Apr 1 2014, 01:35 PM
smokey   My Lilbasterd Gets much stiffer wen chancing any...   Jan 5 2015, 08:17 PM
ThePaintedMan   Dafuq?   Jan 6 2015, 07:51 AM
Bullethead   How did this thread get reanimated? Last post was ...   Sep 6 2023, 09:45 PM
d914   egman inner longs tangering racing rear console su...   Oct 9 2023, 01:13 PM
mlindner   I had a full roll bar cage for many years. The las...   Dec 1 2023, 04:35 PM
brant   I had a full roll bar cage for many years. The la...   Dec 2 2023, 08:31 AM
mlindner   Thanks brant. Was not intended for full racing. D...   Dec 4 2023, 09:02 AM
Charles Freeborn   A 911 I'd be concerned about straying too far ...   Jan 6 2024, 01:24 AM
brant   We learned a lot about rules during the build. so ...   Apr 26 2024, 01:43 PM


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