 Questions for a 3.0, #1 is adapting to a 901, What can I keep, what do I need? what else? |
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| Mark Henry |
 Dec 27 2009, 09:20 PM
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that's what I do!  Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada  |
Still debating to build a 2.0 or 2.4 or 2.7 or say fuch it sell it all and get a 3.0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
To me the bottom line $$$ looks almost the same. For a 3.0: What would I need to keep for the clutch and PP (9bolt fly) that works on a 901? What would I need to buy from KEP? Should I be grabbing anything else from the donor engine ? I'm looking a a few engines, #1 a 3.2 that's a bit beyond my budget, #2 an unknown 3.0 longblock core, spins fine, I suspect a broke headstud(s) #3 a good used stock 3.0 euro sc with CIS, #4 a hot rod 3.0 with webers newer top end w/JE's I'm reading all the pro's and cons, yes JP.... Santa did bring me Wayne's book (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What would be your order on my engine choice list above? Cheers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jan 2 2010, 04:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
One thing you should budget is to have the stock 3.0 ignition distributor reworked to optimize for carbs. Barry Hershon ( Michigan ) or Jerry Woods ( California ) are two of the better known names that do this service. I have used both and for complete refurb either will charge about $500.00. Yes it's $$$ but I have been told that if you use a stock distributor from CIS that it's not going to run well with carbs, not sure if true but I wasn't taking a chance. I believe Henry at Supertec also provides this service. Slippery slope indeed don't even ask me how much I have invested into my GT clone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) .
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| Mark Henry |
Jan 2 2010, 06:28 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ Jan 2 2010, 05:10 PM)  One thing you should budget is to have the stock 3.0 ignition distributor reworked to optimize for carbs. Barry Hershon ( Michigan ) or Jerry Woods ( California ) are two of the better known names that do this service. I have used both and for complete refurb either will charge about $500.00. Yes it's $$$ but I have been told that if you use a stock distributor from CIS that it's not going to run well with carbs, not sure if true but I wasn't taking a chance. I believe Henry at Supertec also provides this service. Slippery slope indeed don't even ask me how much I have invested into my GT clone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Dizzy comes with it, but if I have to spend $500 it's Megajolt jr. or MS and run ignition only. GM coils are dirt cheap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| J P Stein |
Jan 2 2010, 06:44 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jan 2 2010, 04:28 PM) [Dizzy comes with it, but if I have to spend $500 it's Megajolt jr. or MS and run ignition only. GM coils are dirt cheap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Bad idea....trust me. MSD all the way, fat wires, & plugs gapped to .045-.05. You do want to run it with carbs, eh?.....it took me 6 months to figure this out ....with help. If you use the CIS cams you may get away with mega-chump. I will explain why if you want.. |
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Mark Henry Questions for a 3.0, #1 is adapting to a 901 Dec 27 2009, 09:20 PM
sww914 KEP has a starter ring gear and hardware that you ... Dec 27 2009, 09:25 PM pete-stevers I would/did go for an early 3.0 with cis, it has T... Dec 27 2009, 09:56 PM jt914-6 When I first used my 3.0 I had my 901 modified to ... Dec 27 2009, 10:15 PM
Mark Henry
When I first used my 3.0 I had my 901 modified to... Jan 20 2010, 01:16 PM J P Stein
Still debating to build a 2.0 or 2.4 or 2.7 or sa... Dec 27 2009, 10:23 PM Mark Henry Number 3 and 4 are the ones that I'm debating ... Dec 28 2009, 12:13 AM rfuerst911sc My 2 cents ( it's all I have left after this G... Dec 28 2009, 06:08 AM SirAndy KEP Stage II, Starter Ringgear, Pressure Plate, 6-... Dec 28 2009, 11:35 AM J P Stein I'll accept that the Stage II set-up works fin... Dec 28 2009, 12:43 PM Mark Henry What is the $damage on that set up? Dec 28 2009, 03:55 PM SirAndy
What is the $damage on that set up?
I don... Dec 28 2009, 04:05 PM rfuerst911sc
What is the $damage on that set up?
Here... Dec 28 2009, 05:54 PM jt914-6 Here's a copy of my invoice from Patrick Motor... Dec 28 2009, 06:59 PM rfuerst911sc
Here's a copy of my invoice from Patrick Moto... Dec 29 2009, 06:16 PM 9146986 Get #3 or #4 with a gaurantee, and the package fro... Dec 29 2009, 08:46 PM Dr Evil Did you factor in that anything over 2.7 will need... Dec 29 2009, 09:47 PM Mark Henry Here's my thinking on a 3.0 :idea:
I have a ... Dec 30 2009, 07:39 AM 9146986 You can put a 24 row Mocal oil cooler in the right... Dec 30 2009, 08:20 AM Dr Evil For a CIS engine you can get away with no cooling ... Dec 30 2009, 10:42 AM Mark Henry
For a CIS engine you can get away with no cooling... Dec 30 2009, 12:19 PM Dr Evil I agree with your logic. If the 3 CIS doesnt pass ... Dec 30 2009, 12:39 PM Mark Henry JP you're such a buzz kill :stooges:
Man....... Dec 30 2009, 05:20 PM rfuerst911sc
JP you're such a buzz kill :stooges:
Man...... Dec 30 2009, 05:51 PM J P Stein
JP you're such a buzz kill :stooges:
It... Dec 30 2009, 06:08 PM J P Stein A cool running engine is a long running engine. Th... Dec 30 2009, 04:14 PM Travis Neff You can always do the cooler under the rear trunk. Dec 30 2009, 05:50 PM Mark Henry Damn...just got offered another engine :blink:
7... Dec 31 2009, 12:37 AM rfuerst911sc As a point of reference I purchased a 1978 3.0 wit... Dec 31 2009, 05:50 AM Mark Henry Wish I could find a sub 100K mile engine for ... Dec 31 2009, 07:56 AM rfuerst911sc
Wish I could find a sub 100K mile engine for ... Dec 31 2009, 08:51 AM Mark Henry
Wish I could find a sub 100K mile engine for ... Dec 31 2009, 09:48 AM J P Stein
To me it's a core, but he didn't like t... Dec 31 2009, 10:11 AM brp986s I just sold a set of core alusils to EBS. They pr... Dec 31 2009, 10:01 AM J P Stein
I just sold a set of core alusils to EBS. They p... Dec 31 2009, 10:56 AM sixaddict My experince is 3. litre (or 2.7 ) on track needs ... Dec 31 2009, 10:26 AM Mark Henry
My experince is 3. litre (or 2.7 ) on track needs... Dec 31 2009, 12:04 PM rfuerst911sc No affiliation but just came across this on Pelica... Dec 31 2009, 01:49 PM J P Stein Well, there ya go.
Tack on a rebuild kit.....bout ... Dec 31 2009, 02:23 PM Mark Henry
Well, there ya go.
Tack on a rebuild kit.....bout... Dec 31 2009, 09:41 PM Justinp71 I bought a '81 complete core 3.0 with a good b... Dec 31 2009, 08:31 PM Mark Henry Thanks for the link but I did see it same time as ... Jan 1 2010, 09:51 AM Justinp71
Thanks for the link but I did see it same time as... Jan 2 2010, 12:08 PM Mark Henry
[quote name='Mark Henry' post='1257016' date='Jan... Jan 2 2010, 02:01 PM J P Stein I don't know enough about the guts of the 3.0L... Jan 1 2010, 10:40 AM Mark Henry Just the stockers, but it has a mint set of nickis... Jan 1 2010, 11:12 AM iamchappy Listen to Henry..... Jan 1 2010, 11:50 AM Mark Henry
Listen to Henry.....
Will do...damn list is gro... Jan 1 2010, 01:45 PM SirAndy
damn list is growing
Schlippery Schlope ... :D Jan 1 2010, 03:35 PM iamchappy
damn list is growing
Schlippery Schlope ... :D... Jan 1 2010, 09:36 PM brp986s :driving: = July 2010 ... July 2011 Jan 1 2010, 04:04 PM Mark Henry
:driving: = July 2010 ... July 2011
:chair: ... Jan 1 2010, 04:48 PM J P Stein The stock 3.0L with headers & carbs will give ... Jan 1 2010, 09:25 PM Mark Henry Can a mod talk to iamchappy about him posting porn... Jan 2 2010, 02:22 PM Mark Henry
[Dizzy comes with it, but if I have to spend ... Jan 2 2010, 07:01 PM rfuerst911sc
One thing you should budget is to have the stock... Jan 2 2010, 07:33 PM iamchappy Do something right, thats well within your budget.... Jan 2 2010, 07:58 PM Mark Henry Can't afford that dizzy, ya bastard, would be ... Jan 2 2010, 08:43 PM iamchappy
Can't afford that dizzy, ya bastard, would be... Jan 2 2010, 09:35 PM J P Stein CIS is one convoluted mo fo and the SC exhaust was... Jan 2 2010, 08:58 PM Mark Henry yakky yak....what ?? you guys want me to go back t... Jan 2 2010, 10:08 PM Mark Henry If I did go the JE route 9.5cr or the mahle 9.7cr ... Jan 2 2010, 10:36 PM Justinp71 Just took my 3.0 914-6 out, man your gonna have a ... Jan 2 2010, 11:30 PM J P Stein I ran pump gas with the 9.7:1 Shastas. As the man ... Jan 3 2010, 07:36 AM Mark Henry Is this piece of shite any good? :idea:
What... Jan 3 2010, 12:36 PM J P Stein Not ehuff info for me......but that's a hell o... Jan 3 2010, 06:35 PM Mark Henry mahle RSR Jan 3 2010, 06:41 PM Mark Henry side
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads15/Pis... Jan 3 2010, 06:43 PM Mark Henry Box
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads15/Pist... Jan 3 2010, 06:44 PM Mark Henry :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads15/Pisto... Jan 3 2010, 06:45 PM J P Stein No fair, I can see the draft angle at the pin boss... Jan 3 2010, 08:08 PM Mark Henry Can't I shim it and get 9.5 cr? Jan 3 2010, 08:11 PM J P Stein Sure, ya got 2mm of base gaskets. :D
Actually, I... Jan 3 2010, 08:20 PM Mark Henry Was told these are only suppose to be around 9.7 c... Jan 3 2010, 08:27 PM J P Stein
Was told these are only suppose to be around 9.7 ... Jan 3 2010, 08:34 PM Mark Henry Ok ok..... I know it's killing you :D
Say ... Jan 3 2010, 08:51 PM J P Stein I assume he stuck you for +dollars for the pistons... Jan 3 2010, 09:09 PM Mark Henry No cams, he never got that far into the project, I... Jan 3 2010, 09:41 PM Mark Henry I have a clutch out of a 71 that I can have real c... Jan 20 2010, 07:33 AM Dr Evil If I understand you correctly, just pull the flywh... Jan 20 2010, 11:53 AM SirAndy
If I understand you correctly, just pull the flyw... Jan 20 2010, 12:02 PM Mark Henry Nope, haven't had a fall down drunk since you ... Jan 20 2010, 12:06 PM Dr Evil Yup, thats what I want. As for your pressure plate... Jan 20 2010, 12:30 PM Mark Henry It is a 911 71 (I think) PP and was told by the lo... Jan 20 2010, 12:36 PM SLITS As a temporary fix, just remove the circlip & ... Jan 20 2010, 12:38 PM Dr Evil I am not sure if it will work for a 3.0 or not as ... Jan 20 2010, 12:39 PM Mark Henry I can't see a circlip and the pivot bolt trick... Jan 20 2010, 12:55 PM sixnotfour poke a screw driver down to the throw out bearing ... Jan 20 2010, 01:41 PM SLITS
poke a screw driver down to the throw out bearing... Jan 20 2010, 05:46 PM Mark Henry I know how it comes out normally, I did remove the... Jan 20 2010, 10:42 PM SLITS
Need the engine and flywheel on it OR some kind ... Jan 21 2010, 10:12 AM |
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