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Crashed 914 in Malaysia - Opinions please |
bdstone914 |
Dec 30 2009, 10:28 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,672 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
I got a request for parts from this individual in Malaysia who wrecked his 914. I fear that the damage is worse then he thinks and may be difficult if not economically practical to fix the car.
It looks to me the the drivers long is crushed and I would not be surprised if the whole car is bent. Your opinions please. (IMG:http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3382/picture005wt.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9726/picture006d.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2483/picture007j.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5764/picture008bj.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7892/picture009cu.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3787/picture010fv.th.jpg) |
johannes |
Jan 1 2010, 03:01 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
Me says there is some engeneering issue with that security device.
My understanding is that the guard rail is set far too high for a 914. The front of the car slipped under the guard rail and the car hit at least two poles. This is a total failure of the security equipement. (I believe the guard rail NOT to be in that design and TO BE shoved into the weird bow due to impact) I DO NOT believe it to be a sign post or some sort of turn warning. The TWO poles seen on the picture are the same as seen behind the car supporting the guard rail. |
jimtab |
Jan 1 2010, 04:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,477 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Pacifica, California Member No.: 91 Region Association: Northern California |
Me says there is some engeneering issue with that security device. My understanding is that the guard rail is set far too high for a 914. The front of the car slipped under the guard rail and the car hit at least two poles. This is a total failure of the security equipement. (I believe the guard rail NOT to be in that design and TO BE shoved into the weird bow due to impact) I DO NOT believe it to be a sign post or some sort of turn warning. The TWO poles seen on the picture are the same as seen behind the car supporting the guard rail. Isn't that just what that type of barrier is supposed to do? I was pretty sure that they are sacrificial in order to dissipate the energy, ARMCO was a great invention that has probably saved as many lives as seatbelts, IMHO. |
johannes |
Jan 1 2010, 05:04 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
Me says there is some engeneering issue with that security device. My understanding is that the guard rail is set far too high for a 914. The front of the car slipped under the guard rail and the car hit at least two poles. This is a total failure of the security equipement. (I believe the guard rail NOT to be in that design and TO BE shoved into the weird bow due to impact) I DO NOT believe it to be a sign post or some sort of turn warning. The TWO poles seen on the picture are the same as seen behind the car supporting the guard rail. Isn't that just what that type of barrier is supposed to do? I was pretty sure that they are sacrificial in order to dissipate the energy, ARMCO was a great invention that has probably saved as many lives as seatbelts, IMHO. The poles aren't supposed to be that "agressive" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_UKFr6_uQk |
maf914 |
Jan 4 2010, 03:30 PM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
Me says there is some engeneering issue with that security device. My understanding is that the guard rail is set far too high for a 914. The front of the car slipped under the guard rail and the car hit at least two poles. This is a total failure of the security equipement. (I believe the guard rail NOT to be in that design and TO BE shoved into the weird bow due to impact) I DO NOT believe it to be a sign post or some sort of turn warning. The TWO poles seen on the picture are the same as seen behind the car supporting the guard rail. Isn't that just what that type of barrier is supposed to do? I was pretty sure that they are sacrificial in order to dissipate the energy, ARMCO was a great invention that has probably saved as many lives as seatbelts, IMHO. The poles aren't supposed to be that "agressive" This discussion reminds me of the fatal accident in which Francois Cevert was killed when his F1 Tyrell Ford submarined the armco at Watkins Glen in the 70's. There is no question armco type barriers work when the accident is within the performance parameters of the barriers and the vehicle is contained, but get underneath the barriers and all bets are off. If you look at most new or renovated racing circuits, armco use is much more limited than in the past, having been replaced with concrete barriers, SAFER barriers, and tire walls. |
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