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| streetrover |
 Dec 22 2009, 09:30 AM
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Hello everyone! OK, I've got an empty 914 in my driveway and a 4.0 liter Rover engine in my garage. A Buick 4bbl intake is en route as is an Edelbrock carb. I've got lots of questions about clearance, most notably about the distributor. The Rover engine came stock with a "crankshaft angle sensor" and individual coils. It'd be great to use this instead of the distributor but I don't know if I can run this ignition system without the "computer" that also controls the fuel injection. If I need to go with the distributor instead that's fine but then how do I overcome clearance restrictions? I would REALLY love to talk to someone with this conversion completed!!!
Thanks, Bob |
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Jan 8 2010, 02:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 9-October 08 From: Morrison, Colorado Member No.: 9,626 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Bob,
Didn't your original photos, in this thread, show the Rover tubular headers that Tom is talking about? I have some Buick 215 cast iron ones if I can find them in this mess I call a Garage. Dave |
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Jan 9 2010, 11:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 22-December 09 From: Inland Empire Member No.: 11,163 Region Association: Southern California |
Tom, Dave... I went to my local Pick-a-Part in the beautiful SoCal city of Ontario and SCORED!!! Picked up a Rover alternator ($30) a coil pack ($39) a thermostat housing (just in case) a radiator ($50) and dual fan shroud assembly ($50). While I was there I noticed that on the engines I pulled these parts from (3.9, 4.0 and 4.2 liter Discoverys) the timing chain covers stick out WAY further than mine. I didn't have a tape measure with me but when I got home I measured mine. It only sticks out 1-3/4 inch from the block (measured from the right-hand side) Also, my serpentine crank pulley sticks out 5-1/4 inch from the block (again right-hand side). I think perhaps the combination of switching to distributor-less ignition plus maybe the thinner timing-chain cover could save you TONS of room! Does your crank pulley stick out past 5-1/4 inches? (see pics below)
Also, I have the exhaust manifolds that came with the engine. They are shaped nicely and fit close to the block but 1. have this weird accordion-like connector between the front two cylinders and the rear two, and 2. are very thin-walled. With the installed engine only inches from the driver I'm very concerned about noise. Perhaps thicker, cast-iron exhaust manifolds will be quieter. Any thoughts? Bob (IMG:http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/Hopwood_Bob/914%20Rover%20Project/100_4116.jpg) (IMG:http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/Hopwood_Bob/914%20Rover%20Project/100_4117.jpg) (IMG:http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/Hopwood_Bob/914%20Rover%20Project/100_4114.jpg) (IMG:http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/Hopwood_Bob/914%20Rover%20Project/100_4115.jpg) |
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streetrover Buick/Rover aluminum v8 to 914 conversion Dec 22 2009, 09:30 AM
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OMG !!! Thanks to everyone! I... Dec 23 2009, 08:22 AM JRust Actually Tom to be more correct I am redoing my co... Dec 22 2009, 08:00 PM GS Guy Not sure how interchangeable the old Buick V6 comp... Dec 23 2009, 07:39 AM streetrover Pix I promised!
I can't find my first pix... Dec 23 2009, 05:13 PM JRust I like it :headbanger: . The more that do this con... Dec 23 2009, 08:13 PM streetrover Exhaust manifolds...
Hi JRust, while I was on the... Dec 24 2009, 12:50 PM GS Guy What's the rated HP & Torque of the 4.0? ... Dec 23 2009, 08:27 PM streetrover No real hot-rodding plans for motor. I want to se... Dec 24 2009, 12:59 PM codices I'm in the process with a Buick bored out.030 ... Dec 24 2009, 12:54 AM streetrover I looked at the reddawg site and didn't see mu... Dec 24 2009, 01:11 PM Cheapsnake Let the fun begin! I hope that fine paint job... Dec 24 2009, 06:33 AM streetrover THREE WEEK BACKLOG and Kennedy Engineering! D... Dec 24 2009, 10:04 AM GS Guy Here are some ideas on keeping the engine short an... Dec 24 2009, 01:11 PM streetrover YES! YES! Perfect! This is EXACTLY wha... Dec 24 2009, 01:22 PM J P Stein OK, Iff'n I was to do a different conversion, ... Dec 24 2009, 02:35 PM codices
I will attempt to post a picture of the cradle... Dec 24 2009, 03:53 PM streetrover That sure is a clean motor! Dec 26 2009, 10:37 AM Cheapsnake Here's my version, alternator relocated down l... Dec 24 2009, 04:55 PM Cheapsnake continued...
Water pump is just an empty shell. ... Dec 24 2009, 05:17 PM streetrover It may have taken awhile, but that crossmount look... Dec 26 2009, 10:41 AM Cheapsnake
It may have taken awhile, but that crossmount loo... Dec 26 2009, 05:57 PM JRust
It may have taken awhile, but that crossmount lo... Dec 26 2009, 07:24 PM Cheapsnake
[quote name='Cheapsnake' post='1255447' date='Dec... Dec 26 2009, 08:00 PM streetrover '62 Buick 215 intake manifold arrived Thurs. (... Dec 27 2009, 06:19 PM Cheapsnake
'62 Buick 215 intake manifold arrived Thurs. ... Dec 27 2009, 06:35 PM JRust I have the 600cfm with electric choke on mine. It ... Dec 27 2009, 07:13 PM codices Sounds like you are coming along quite well with t... Dec 27 2009, 08:57 PM Cheapsnake
I am concerned about exhaust manifold/headers. A... Dec 28 2009, 09:09 AM pjhaun
Sounds like you are coming along quite well with ... Dec 28 2009, 11:44 AM codices Tom,
Are those headers fromOverland Rover Chop Sho... Dec 28 2009, 11:12 AM codices Tom,
I didn't read his ad well enough. He sa... Dec 28 2009, 11:37 AM Cheapsnake
Tom,
I didn't read his ad well enough. He s... Dec 28 2009, 06:54 PM codices Phillip,
I think you have the pictures from some t... Dec 29 2009, 11:32 AM streetrover Trigger wheels... OK, here's the latest. On a... Jan 6 2010, 09:01 PM streetrover Ok, so here's the latest...I took the Rover fl... Jan 19 2010, 08:59 PM Cheapsnake Am I looking at this correctly? It looks like you... Jan 7 2010, 08:01 AM streetrover
Am I looking at this correctly? It looks like yo... Jan 7 2010, 08:05 AM Cheapsnake
Am I looking at this correctly? It looks like y... Jan 7 2010, 09:47 AM michaelt55 Great stuff!! I have a 215 Buick engine... Jan 7 2010, 09:33 PM codices Michael,
Do you have any pictures? My 215 should... Jan 7 2010, 11:35 PM michaelt55
Michael,
Do you have any pictures? My 215 shoul... Jan 10 2010, 02:09 AM streetrover Exhaust Manifolds anyone? Hi guys, I'm lookin... Jan 7 2010, 11:53 PM Cheapsnake
Exhaust Manifolds anyone? Hi guys, I'm looki... Jan 8 2010, 08:10 AM streetrover Here's a pick of the accordion-like manifold I... Jan 9 2010, 12:37 PM Dr. Roger http://www.mgbhive.co.uk/V8-tubular-5piece-manifol... Jan 9 2010, 02:32 PM Dr. Roger the last thing you want to do is bolt a couple of ... Jan 9 2010, 02:34 PM Cheapsnake Good score Bob, always fun to go scrounging. Did ... Jan 9 2010, 07:05 PM codices Bob,
That "accordian" is probably for a... Jan 9 2010, 07:53 PM streetrover Yeah, after closer measurement it is too big. No ... Jan 10 2010, 10:01 AM Krank I have two 215 Olds engines. The Olds engines have... Jan 13 2010, 12:25 PM codices Krank,
If you have the engine mounted in your ... Jan 13 2010, 04:57 PM Cheapsnake
Krank,
If you have the engine mounted in your ... Jan 14 2010, 08:37 AM andys
Krank,
If you have the engine mounted in your ... Jan 14 2010, 10:50 AM Krank
[quote name='Cheapsnake' post='1261725' date='Jan... Feb 19 2010, 09:31 PM rick 918-S Yep, that's an expansion joint. My 928 engine ... Jan 13 2010, 06:42 PM andys That Olds 215 was the better motor of the two. The... Jan 13 2010, 06:50 PM codices Bob,
The ignition approach that you are taking so... Jan 20 2010, 12:03 PM streetrover Excellent Dave! Please post as soon as you ha... Jan 20 2010, 04:49 PM 914GT If it helps any, I've been running a Dedenbear... Jan 20 2010, 05:05 PM codices Guy,
That is really encouraging to know. I have ... Jan 20 2010, 08:18 PM 914GT Dave,
I know nothing about the Rover engines, but... Jan 20 2010, 08:57 PM codices Guy,
Thanks for the information. I will try to r... Jan 20 2010, 09:01 PM J P Stein The Olds was the only "stock block" in F... Feb 20 2010, 10:03 AM rick 918-S
The Olds was the only "stock block" in ... Feb 20 2010, 10:13 AM Krank
Hello everyone! OK, I've got an empty 91... Feb 22 2010, 05:15 PM Cheapsnake To answer your question Krank, I'm in the proc... Feb 22 2010, 08:32 PM Krank Tom,
Did you use an original 215 distributor or w... Feb 28 2010, 09:31 PM streetrover Ok, so here's the latest... I picked up my go... Mar 3 2010, 08:17 PM Cheapsnake Krank, yep, used the 215 distributor but I'm 9... Mar 3 2010, 08:43 PM Krank O.K. Thanks Bob, now I'm gonna dream a little ... Mar 3 2010, 10:30 PM Cheapsnake
O.K. Thanks Bob, now I'm gonna dream a little... Mar 4 2010, 07:03 AM Krank
O.K. Thanks Bob, now I'm gonna dream a littl... Mar 4 2010, 11:09 AM streetrover Got the engine in to check all the clearances. Fa... Apr 4 2010, 12:21 PM realred914 you might check with teh VW sand rail folks, they ... Apr 4 2010, 02:07 PM quick six
you might check with teh VW sand rail folks, they... Apr 4 2010, 04:23 PM Cheapsnake Hey Bob, you're making progress, looking good.... Apr 4 2010, 04:43 PM Cheapsnake For you Rover V8 guys, here's where you're... Apr 5 2010, 06:39 PM streetrover Thanks for the good words! :beer2: :beer2: ... Apr 5 2010, 08:45 PM streetrover Hi Tom,
You asked for a few pics of the water-pum... Apr 27 2010, 09:36 PM JRust Looking good Bob! Lvoe to see what you do with... Apr 27 2010, 09:41 PM Cheapsnake Nice work Bob. That plate is going to save you a ... Apr 28 2010, 06:57 AM codices Good to see some progress being made. My picture ... Apr 28 2010, 01:39 PM codices Let me add a few more photos--perhaps it will moti... Apr 28 2010, 01:50 PM codices Just a few more.
Apr 28 2010, 01:53 PM codices Maybe a couple more.
This last one shows the en... Apr 28 2010, 02:02 PM streetrover Wow Dave - Great Stuff! GET GOING! Hey, ... Apr 28 2010, 02:18 PM codices
Wow Dave - Great Stuff! GET GOING! Hey,... Apr 28 2010, 02:26 PM codices Help me, I can't stop. Last two. The first on... Apr 28 2010, 02:15 PM |
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