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> What's the "Right" Part-Load Mixture?, Looking for inputs and experiences - OPEN DISCUSSION
pbanders
post Jan 14 2010, 12:48 PM
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I'd like to get a discussion going on what the "right" part-load mixture (for a fully-warmed up motor) is for different engine configurations. Why? Because for D-Jet and other systems, this is the most "fundamental" mixture adjustment, one that all of the other conditions (e.g. warm-up, acceleration, full-load, overrun, etc.) are all affected by. It's also important from a fuel economy and emissions perspective, as part-load is where the engine spends the majority of its time in normal operation.

To define what I mean by "part-load mixture", I'm talking about the CO level as measured by a shop-quality analyzer on a fully warmed-up car either on a dyno or running on flat road, at a small, constant throttle angle, with engine speed between 2000 and 3000 rpm (pick 2500 rpm if you want an exact value). Air temperature around 70 deg. F, near sea level.

I recently (last 2K miles) had my 2.0L rebuilt. Only mod is Euro pistons, otherwise, it's mechanically bone stock, including the cam, outfitted with D-Jetronic and a Crane XR3000 ignition set to standard timing specs. I initially set it up with an NOS, unmolested Bosch MPS. What I found was that the part-load mixture under the conditions I described above was about 4.5%, quite rich.

I have an MPS that's in good condition that I have removed the epoxy protection from the full-load stop, so that I can remove it and adjust the main mixture screw. I did some experimentation and found from road testing (with my CO meter attached), that I could lower the part-load CO to 2.5% while maintaining good driveability. If I went any lower than this, I began to have lean mixture issues, such as poor on/off throttle response. I did a number of abrupt throttle openings from part-load, and didn't hear any evidence of pre-ignition (knocking), either.

The most obvious change I've noticed since this mixture adjustment is that my fuel economy has jumped to about 26 mpg in normal urban driving. I don't have oil or head temp gauges. I intend to do some oil temp measurements (thermocouple down the dipstick tube), but the car doesn't seem to be running hot at all. I also will yank the plugs the next time I get a chance to see what they look like after a run under part-load conditions (tips on the "right" way to do this would be appreciated).

My question to the group: is this a reasonable part-load mixture level? Is there a better method for determining the "right" part-load mixture? How do the guys out there with carbs, L-Jet, and aftermarket FI setups determine their correct part-load mixture? Is Jake posting here any more, I'd really like to hear how he does it.
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Mark Henry
post Jan 16 2010, 06:10 AM
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The closer you get to stoich your temps will increase, basically starting into heat soak. These temps are great for mileage, but they start to and will kill power. I don't know on d-jet but almost all aircooled VW were slightly rich as the excess fuel actually aids in the cooling of the heads. CR also plays an important roll in temps and tuning.
Modern cars can run lean because they are watercooled.

One of the oldschool methods for recognizing a lean condition is crisp on startup and a loss of power hot.
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jan 16 2010, 05:10 AM) *

The closer you get to stoich your temps will increase, basically starting into heat soak. These temps are great for mileage, but they start to and will kill power. I don't know on d-jet but almost all aircooled VW were slightly rich as the excess fuel actually aids in the cooling of the heads. CR also plays an important roll in temps and tuning.
Modern cars can run lean because they are watercooled.

One of the oldschool methods for recognizing a lean condition is crisp on startup and a loss of power hot.


Mark, thanks. Given that temps are cooler here right now, I'm thinking an extra 0.5% richer (3.0%) might be the best compromise for power and economy, and that gets me closer to Jake's numbers.
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