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> How to determine EXACTLY where TDC is?, Valve adjustment advice needed
JeffBowlsby
post May 2 2010, 10:34 AM
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Eyeballing alignment of the rotor to the tick mark on the dizzy body seems so imprecise...for adjusting valves. Is there a method of locating TDC for each cyl PRECISELY?

1. I thought about making some kind of rotor replacement device with a pointer that could extend down close to the tick mark, but thats only good for cyl 1. All cylinders needed.

2. I thought about making a special trigger point plug adapter with three long wires, and attaching it to me DVM on the buzzer setting. When the trigger points would make contact, then that would indicate...? I am not sure that the trigger points make contact at TDC, I think it is at some different point in the cycle.

Any time proven methods?
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post May 2 2010, 11:16 AM
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No it isn't more important to do it that way. Krusty's method works fine and a lot of people prefer it, but it's just a different way of getting the same job done.

As for the original question, chopsticks would work great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Kidding Jeff...

Really, the distributor mark only gets you close. And depending on how much advance you've dialed in, that mark is going vary.

To find #1 TDC I've always done this: Put the rotor on the dizzy mark and then rock a raised wheel wheel with the transaxle in 5th to find either the TDC mark on the fan or the flywheel (I marked my flywheel so I can see it in the engine compartment). Then I go down and verify that the valves for #1 cylinder are both closed. To further verify I can then rock that same wheel to turn the motor and watch the valves open and close. From there you can just move along in the firing order for the remaining cylinders.

Now that I've done that once for the first time on my 914, I marked my flywheel so I can see it underneath the car also. This makes the entire valve adjustment process very easy and once I've set #1 I don't have to get back up from underneath the car.

I would think your idea would also be somewhat varied based on ignition timing, but then I'm no D-Jet expert so I don't know when exactly those points are closed. I'm sure an expert will pop up shortly...
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Jeff Bowlsby   How to determine EXACTLY where TDC is?   May 2 2010, 10:34 AM
Tom   Jeff, From reading posts on here, it seems to...   May 2 2010, 11:02 AM
Vacca Rabite   Toms right. Due to the cam layout of our cars (th...   May 2 2010, 11:06 AM
Gint   No it isn't more important to do it that way. ...   May 2 2010, 11:16 AM
McMark   On a running car you can use the rotor to determin...   May 2 2010, 11:35 AM
realred914   On a running car you can use the rotor to determi...   May 10 2010, 08:29 AM
JRust   how can you view the rotor when teh car is runnin...   May 10 2010, 08:36 AM
URY914   I found this picture somewhere and thought someone...   May 2 2010, 02:12 PM
r_towle   Jeff, I can get you onto two. Via the timing hole...   May 2 2010, 05:19 PM
Dave_Darling   Then, if your so inclined...remove the engine and...   May 2 2010, 10:28 PM
ClayPerrine   Just do this the easy way..... Take off BOTH valv...   May 2 2010, 05:41 PM
McMark   Okay, since Dave upped the ante: :poke: You shou...   May 2 2010, 10:35 PM
ConeDodger   Okay, since Dave upped the ante: :poke: You sho...   May 9 2010, 10:55 PM
avidfanjpl   And my 2.0 is so early an engine it has a red mark...   May 2 2010, 10:36 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Unless you have a VERY unusual fan, there's al...   May 2 2010, 10:40 PM
charliew   My experience is with t1 bugs. It was always real ...   May 3 2010, 10:28 AM
JRust   So when you have top dead center on #1 & have ...   May 9 2010, 10:49 PM
McMark   Yup, when the #1 cylinder at TDC on the compressio...   May 9 2010, 11:01 PM
JRust   Okay here are a couple pics. I believe I am at TDC...   May 9 2010, 11:34 PM
avidfanjpl   Just went through this too. Steve Gaglione set me ...   May 9 2010, 11:42 PM
realred914   for adjusting valves you dont need to be very perc...   May 10 2010, 08:34 AM
jimkelly   pic   May 10 2010, 08:47 AM
realred914   pic Gawd, that is horribly complicated. just...   May 10 2010, 09:50 AM
JRust   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distribut...   May 10 2010, 08:51 AM
realred914   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distribu...   May 10 2010, 09:54 AM
McMark   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distribu...   May 10 2010, 10:07 AM
SLITS   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distrib...   May 10 2010, 10:39 AM
ClayPerrine   Just to make it more confusing ...... The distr...   May 10 2010, 10:49 AM
vsg914   Dang, there are a lot of different ways to find td...   May 10 2010, 10:30 AM
JRust   Dang, there are a lot of different ways to find t...   May 10 2010, 10:33 AM
JRust   Okay so I am not off 180 degrees. I am off somewhe...   May 10 2010, 10:30 AM
vsg914   Cool. I haven't seen a rev liming rotor in man...   May 10 2010, 10:39 AM
vsg914   I agree with Slits. Seen more than one car with pl...   May 10 2010, 10:44 AM
McMark   Ignore where your rotor is pointing. It's irr...   May 10 2010, 10:46 AM
McMark   Your rotor is pointing at the line in the distribu...   May 10 2010, 10:50 AM
JRust   Your rotor is pointing at the line in the distrib...   May 10 2010, 12:21 PM
ClayPerrine   Whats with the rev limiting rotor? Any benefits t...   May 10 2010, 02:10 PM
underthetire   One way to find TDC on # 1 is remove a plug, place...   May 10 2010, 10:51 AM
vsg914   One way to find TDC on # 1 is remove a plug, plac...   May 10 2010, 11:40 AM
McMark   The rev-limiting rotor has a weight that will disc...   May 10 2010, 01:01 PM


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