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> How to determine EXACTLY where TDC is?, Valve adjustment advice needed
JeffBowlsby
post May 2 2010, 10:34 AM
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Eyeballing alignment of the rotor to the tick mark on the dizzy body seems so imprecise...for adjusting valves. Is there a method of locating TDC for each cyl PRECISELY?

1. I thought about making some kind of rotor replacement device with a pointer that could extend down close to the tick mark, but thats only good for cyl 1. All cylinders needed.

2. I thought about making a special trigger point plug adapter with three long wires, and attaching it to me DVM on the buzzer setting. When the trigger points would make contact, then that would indicate...? I am not sure that the trigger points make contact at TDC, I think it is at some different point in the cycle.

Any time proven methods?
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post May 9 2010, 11:42 PM
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Just went through this too. Steve Gaglione set me straight. The rotor must be pointing at #1 when it is tdc, and from there tighten the dizzy when the rotor lines up to the mark on the dizzy, but not too tight. From there, check that the points are at .017 (I had to back up about 5 feet to see the rotor line up with the dizzy mark, but it is possible without removing the engine deck lid.

Then get a dwell meter to read 44-45 degrees and you are ready to start the car and rev it to 3500 rpm, which when at that rpm (use a combo dwell/tach meter set to tach, and if it is a modern one, you have to double the V8 reading, because there are only OLD dwell meters that show 4 cylinder dwell) and turn the dizzy slowly till you get to -27 btdc. If you have the red mark on the fan, you will see it march right to the notch at 3500 rpm, and you will be done!

It was a thing of beauty, as I had the red and white marks on my 2.0, not a zero, so if you have only a zero, you need better directions than I have here.

I ended up marching the dizzy right back to the same grease pencil marking I had noted on the dizzy and the oil neck/vacuum screw lineup BEFORE I changed the points, plugs, condenser and trigger points, so there is some justice in the 914 world of self-adjustment

Good luck. If I can do it, anyone can. I spent years letting others do all the dirty work.

Now I have skinned knuckles and I know more than I should, so splitting another crankcase can't be far off!

John
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Jeff Bowlsby   How to determine EXACTLY where TDC is?   May 2 2010, 10:34 AM
Tom   Jeff, From reading posts on here, it seems to...   May 2 2010, 11:02 AM
Vacca Rabite   Toms right. Due to the cam layout of our cars (th...   May 2 2010, 11:06 AM
Gint   No it isn't more important to do it that way. ...   May 2 2010, 11:16 AM
McMark   On a running car you can use the rotor to determin...   May 2 2010, 11:35 AM
realred914   On a running car you can use the rotor to determi...   May 10 2010, 08:29 AM
JRust   how can you view the rotor when teh car is runnin...   May 10 2010, 08:36 AM
URY914   I found this picture somewhere and thought someone...   May 2 2010, 02:12 PM
r_towle   Jeff, I can get you onto two. Via the timing hole...   May 2 2010, 05:19 PM
Dave_Darling   Then, if your so inclined...remove the engine and...   May 2 2010, 10:28 PM
ClayPerrine   Just do this the easy way..... Take off BOTH valv...   May 2 2010, 05:41 PM
McMark   Okay, since Dave upped the ante: :poke: You shou...   May 2 2010, 10:35 PM
ConeDodger   Okay, since Dave upped the ante: :poke: You sho...   May 9 2010, 10:55 PM
avidfanjpl   And my 2.0 is so early an engine it has a red mark...   May 2 2010, 10:36 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Unless you have a VERY unusual fan, there's al...   May 2 2010, 10:40 PM
charliew   My experience is with t1 bugs. It was always real ...   May 3 2010, 10:28 AM
JRust   So when you have top dead center on #1 & have ...   May 9 2010, 10:49 PM
McMark   Yup, when the #1 cylinder at TDC on the compressio...   May 9 2010, 11:01 PM
JRust   Okay here are a couple pics. I believe I am at TDC...   May 9 2010, 11:34 PM
avidfanjpl   Just went through this too. Steve Gaglione set me ...   May 9 2010, 11:42 PM
realred914   for adjusting valves you dont need to be very perc...   May 10 2010, 08:34 AM
jimkelly   pic   May 10 2010, 08:47 AM
realred914   pic Gawd, that is horribly complicated. just...   May 10 2010, 09:50 AM
JRust   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distribut...   May 10 2010, 08:51 AM
realred914   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distribu...   May 10 2010, 09:54 AM
McMark   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distribu...   May 10 2010, 10:07 AM
SLITS   What I am not seeing is how I adjust the distrib...   May 10 2010, 10:39 AM
ClayPerrine   Just to make it more confusing ...... The distr...   May 10 2010, 10:49 AM
vsg914   Dang, there are a lot of different ways to find td...   May 10 2010, 10:30 AM
JRust   Dang, there are a lot of different ways to find t...   May 10 2010, 10:33 AM
JRust   Okay so I am not off 180 degrees. I am off somewhe...   May 10 2010, 10:30 AM
vsg914   Cool. I haven't seen a rev liming rotor in man...   May 10 2010, 10:39 AM
vsg914   I agree with Slits. Seen more than one car with pl...   May 10 2010, 10:44 AM
McMark   Ignore where your rotor is pointing. It's irr...   May 10 2010, 10:46 AM
McMark   Your rotor is pointing at the line in the distribu...   May 10 2010, 10:50 AM
JRust   Your rotor is pointing at the line in the distrib...   May 10 2010, 12:21 PM
ClayPerrine   Whats with the rev limiting rotor? Any benefits t...   May 10 2010, 02:10 PM
underthetire   One way to find TDC on # 1 is remove a plug, place...   May 10 2010, 10:51 AM
vsg914   One way to find TDC on # 1 is remove a plug, plac...   May 10 2010, 11:40 AM
McMark   The rev-limiting rotor has a weight that will disc...   May 10 2010, 01:01 PM


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