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arkitect
post Mar 5 2010, 02:04 AM
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New to this, first post.

Trying to get some opinions on an engine rebuild. I've got a 70 914 with the engine in pieces....should I try to get the parts - pistons, rings, bearings ect. or try to find a good used motor. Assuming it's a 1.7.

I know, this is a pretty loaded question.
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post May 22 2010, 10:43 AM
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I agree completely with the recommendations for McMark and Raby Aircooled Technology.

If I was looking for a driver, I would build a 2056 with carbs. Nice little power boost over the stock engines of any size. DJet is good with the 2056 as well but cam choice is critical. The next important thing to remember is that the heads are critical. You can spend as little as you want on the rebuild and if you don't pay a lot of attention to the heads you could end up doing it twice which is now a lot of money. On several occasions I have seen heads that have been rebuilt which have cracks in them or loose seats. I am not saying that Len Hoffman is the only place to go and I doubt Len would tell you that either, but Len has a careful process that gives you the best chance of your heads not giving you problems. Now, the problem; Len will not work with old original castings any more. Your rebuilder should bake the bare heads in an oven at 400 degrees F. This is the temperature at which bad things happen in a running Type IV engine. My operating cylinder head temperature in the engine I am using right now is 250 degrees F. and rises to 300 degrees F. when I spank it like a bad Catholic girl or go to a 5th gear cruise on a hot day. At 400 degrees, Len sees valve seats actually just fall out of the casting. Now, imagine this happening in your new engine; disaster! It will mess up the head which will need rewelding and machining to restore its shape before it can be rebuilt again. It will take out the cylinder and if you're lucky just the top of the piston. If it goes through the top of the piston, it probably will destroy everything inside the case and ventilate the case as well.

I am not saying you cannot do a cheap on the fly rebuild. You probably can but know where you are going from the start. Minimum, you need a cam with valve train and valve job, as well as a gasket kit and bearings. I would guess even do it yourself you are looking at $1000.

Don't be afraid to spend some money. There is nothing more expensive than a car you will not drive because it doesn't run right or reliably. Buy a $100 bike and you will hang it from the rafters, buy a $2000 bike and you will put a 1000 miles a year on it.

Talk to McMark, he is close and very trustworthy.
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arkitect   engine woes   Mar 5 2010, 02:04 AM
spankmeister7   New to this, first post. Trying to get some opin...   Mar 5 2010, 04:26 AM
hydroliftin   New to this, first post. Trying to get some opin...   Mar 5 2010, 10:14 AM
Tom_T   :agree: ... and as an Architect, your time may ...   Mar 5 2010, 10:23 AM
Tom_T   Oh & :wttc: BTW - my "agree" was ...   Mar 5 2010, 10:27 AM
arkitect   Thanks everyone for their input. Yes just looking ...   Mar 5 2010, 10:44 AM
ericread   Thanks everyone for their input. Yes just looking...   Mar 5 2010, 10:50 AM
arkitect   Good news, I found another project car (thanks ...   Apr 5 2010, 08:54 PM
arkitect   Trying to figure out how to add a picture. Is ther...   Apr 5 2010, 09:14 PM
Tom_T   Trying to figure out how to add a picture. Is the...   Apr 5 2010, 09:47 PM
kwales   Download irfanview. It's free and you can use...   Apr 6 2010, 10:03 AM
RobW   :wttc: Pleasanton and the entire Bay Area isn...   Apr 6 2010, 10:11 AM
Vacca Rabite   Unless you are trying to keep the car as stock (li...   Apr 6 2010, 10:21 AM
Dave_Darling   Then again, it can easily cost thousands to build ...   Apr 6 2010, 11:55 AM
arkitect   Hope this works, downloaded IrfanView and did a sa...   Apr 6 2010, 07:28 PM
arkitect   Yea, it worked. Here's the interior....needs s...   Apr 6 2010, 07:35 PM
wigh9   I've got a 1.7L out of a '73 with carbs th...   Apr 6 2010, 07:43 PM
Lennies914   Very cool Dave. Now that you have it home have you...   Apr 12 2010, 06:50 PM
arkitect   Working on tearing the interior out, found alot of...   May 3 2010, 09:48 PM
arkitect   Working on tearing the interior out, found alot of...   May 3 2010, 09:58 PM
Lennies914   :smash: Sorry Dave, no easy way. But I'm glad ...   May 3 2010, 10:06 PM
jcambo7   :wttc:   May 4 2010, 12:00 AM
arkitect   Here is my latest find, found this engine for ...   May 21 2010, 03:54 PM
arkitect   Here is another case I have for a 1.8, which one s...   May 21 2010, 03:59 PM
Dr Evil   Engine looks kinda turdy. Why do you want a 1.7? W...   May 21 2010, 04:01 PM
Jeffs9146   Engine Numbers Link It is a 70-72 1.7L Andy, I ...   May 21 2010, 04:12 PM
bandjoey   Heat gun from Harbor Freight and a stiff scraper w...   May 21 2010, 08:22 PM
ConeDodger   I agree completely with the recommendations for Mc...   May 22 2010, 10:43 AM
craig downs   The way you get the proper end pay is you need a f...   May 22 2010, 11:23 AM
Jeffs9146   OK that should help him!! So he doesn...   May 22 2010, 12:54 PM
arkitect   Rob and Craig, Thanks for the advice, figured it o...   May 29 2010, 12:14 AM
arkitect   And the engine I am working with is a 1.7, with th...   May 29 2010, 06:30 AM
arkitect   Well, thinking of changing directions of dual carb...   Jun 16 2010, 06:51 PM
arkitect   I guess I'd better qualify that with that...   Jun 16 2010, 06:57 PM
Vacca Rabite   Push it with another car. Lot of friends pushing. ...   Jun 16 2010, 07:22 PM
arkitect   Zach, Internet problems...sorry. Right last guess...   Jun 16 2010, 08:49 PM
Lennies914   Zach, Internet problems...sorry. Right last gues...   Jun 16 2010, 09:47 PM
arkitect   Lennie, I don't think 4 of us could have pushe...   Jun 16 2010, 10:21 PM
Jeffs9146   I am not sure about this weekend but if I am avail...   Jun 16 2010, 11:41 PM
Root_Werks   :wttc: Looks like a fun project. Hope the 1.7 y...   Jun 17 2010, 09:14 AM


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