Weber IDF always rich- Please help! |
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Weber IDF always rich- Please help! |
tornik550 |
Jun 13 2010, 08:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,248 Joined: 29-January 07 From: Ohio Member No.: 7,486 Region Association: None |
I have dual weber 40 idf's. I cannot get the mixture correct no matter of the changes that I have made. I foul the plugs with dry black soot in only minutes. The car runs fairly well. Could be fine tuned however right now I am working on gross tuning. Heres the background info-
Setup- -1.7l case now 2.27l by changing jugs to 96mm and crank to 78.5mm -2.0l heads (I also have stock 1.7l heads, I have had the same issue with both heads) -A "fairly aggressive webcam camshaft setup for carbs". I do not know the exact lift and such. The previous owner increased the displacement from 1.7l to 2.0l. He changed the cam when he rebuilt the engine. When I rebuilt the engine, I used the same cam. I had this rich mixture issue before and after my rebuild. Carb info- -Dual weber 40 idf's freshly rebuilt with new needles and seats -main jets 120 -air correction jets 200 -tubes- f11 -idle jets 50 -vents 32mm -floats set at 10mm (rich mixture), 11mm (rich mixture), 12mm (rich mixture) -fuel pressure at 3.5 Other Info about my engine- -MSD 6al ignition -MSD Blaster 2 Coil -Bosch 050 distributor with pertronix -Autolite 63 spark plugs gapped at .030 I have tried a few things however I have not been able to change the problem. I only have a set of larger mains which obviously didn't help the issue. I have checked to make sure the needle is seating properly. I have removed the air correction jets to see what would happen- no major change in the mixture. I have a set of 34mm vents on the way however I doubt that will change much. It seems to me that with the carb setup that I currently have, I shouldn't be fouling the plugs after running the engine for only a minute. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. (Yes, I did post something similar on 914Club. I am trying to look for as many ideas as I can find). |
tornik550 |
Jun 27 2010, 07:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,248 Joined: 29-January 07 From: Ohio Member No.: 7,486 Region Association: None |
Here is a brief summary of what I have tried to figure out the problem. Some may sound stupid but I have tried everything I can think of. I am referring to rich idle only. Nothing has changed anything. I realize there may be some tricks to get rid of the symptoms however I want to figure out and fix the source my problem. I am absolutely lost and frustrated.
-tried different idle jets (larger was all I had but it was just a shot) -different main jets of many different sizes -idle mixture screw adjustments to all extremes -tried 7 different types of spark plugs at different heat ranges -checked to make sure pump is not leaking -tried different float heights- anywhere from 10mm-12.5mm -confirmed float needle is seating properly -confirmed air ducts about idle jets are patent -tried to run without air correction jets just to see what would happen- no help -rebuilt choke system after I found the starter jets were stuck- no help. out of frustration, i then tried to plug the starter circuit so there would be absolutely no leakage- no luck -tried various timing setting- no change in rich issue. -found crack in one intake manifold- no change -tried different spark plug gaps (0.28-.45) -tried different venturi size (why not give it a try)- tried 32mm and 34mm -added the needed o-rings to the idle holders that I forgot- no help Clearly there is something very wrong. If something were this wrong it seems like it would be somewhat obvious. I think that I have tried just about everything and I am extremely lost and frustrated. I hate the thought of taking my car to the shop but I may have to. I have a young child and my wife is pregnant. I can see her getting a bit angry with me if drop $500-1k taking the car in. |
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