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> Just a notion. Need smart people to iron out details., Co-Op Race Track/Tracks.
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post Aug 1 2010, 09:53 AM
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Had this notion driving round town the other day. I Googled it but couldn't find anything on the idea. The way I figure, most sports car enthusiast would love to have a place to stretch their cars legs and test the boundaries without fearing the law or flying off the road into some trees, a ditch, a house or people for that matter. Sadly, where I live anyway there isn't a road course to be found for some 300 miles. And even then you can't get on it without spending a fortune and being there on the right day. My idea, as nieve as it may seem is a road coarse built by the people (funded anyway) for the people. The people being common Joe Shmoe's like ourselves. The concept is pretty simple. You'd have members chip in an initial amount to get the track constructed, then an annual membership fee to keep it maintained. You could then set up a schedule of sort so the track isn't over crowded on any given day (this is one place you'd smart people would come in). There would of course be rules in ordinance with all safety requirements. I think the best place to try such an endeavor would be out West, say California where there's a large sports car community present. But, I supose it could work in a number of places. Keep in mind, I have no idea how much it cost to build a race track or what kind of red tape you'd have to cut through. Anyway, just a thought. Thought I'd try and get the snowball rolling down hill and see how big it got. Thanks for reading. I'd love to hear any input on the topic.
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post Aug 1 2010, 03:15 PM
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Well, like I said. I'm no lawyer and I have no idea what the laws are regarding liability on the race track as I've never been on one, but I'd figure the negligence would be on the race car driver as he's in control of said car. Unless maybe there was something definitively wrong with the track. Can you sue the state or federal government if you throw it in the trees at 100mph on a perfectly good road? Believe me, I know people sue other people for just about anything nowadays. How does it work when you go to track days? I assume you sign a waiver of some sort, but I don't know. Enter at your own peril? Again any lawyers can chime in if they know the ins and outs of such a proposal.
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post Aug 1 2010, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Silverstreak @ Aug 1 2010, 05:15 PM) *

...Can you sue the state or federal government if you throw it in the trees at 100mph on a perfectly good road? Believe me, I know people sue other people for just about anything nowadays. How does it work when you go to track days? I assume you sign a waiver of some sort, but I don't know. Enter at your own peril?

You can sue the federal government only if you ask nicely.
Usually they say no.
(The government is exempt from a lot of laws they hold us 'mere citizens' to...)

100mph isn't legal anywhere. Suppose I go offroad at the legal speed of 80. My heirs and assigns might legitimately claim there should have been a 'guide rail' (it's not a 'guard rail' any more due to prior litigation...).

You do sign a waiver for a track day. They're fundamentally nonenforceable but it does tend to keep the noise level down. You can bet the track and the organizing body have insurance, which is all I said originally - this is fundamentally dangerous and you better have damned good insurance.
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Silverstreak   Just a notion. Need smart people to iron out details.   Aug 1 2010, 09:53 AM
URY914   Nice idea, but..... The first investors need to c...   Aug 1 2010, 10:16 AM
Silverstreak   Certainly, it would take a large number of investo...   Aug 1 2010, 11:56 AM
ldsgeek   Last I heard you can figure at least $1,000,0...   Aug 1 2010, 12:35 PM
Silverstreak   Last I heard you can figure at least $1,000,...   Aug 1 2010, 02:43 PM
ArtechnikA   Had this notion driving round town the other day....   Aug 1 2010, 12:54 PM
bandjoey   ...AND $5k PER RACE FOR INSURANCE. It's ...   Aug 1 2010, 01:15 PM
Silverstreak   As far as the insurance and liability thing goes. ...   Aug 1 2010, 02:52 PM
ArtechnikA   ...I'm not sure how it would work out suing y...   Aug 1 2010, 02:59 PM
Silverstreak   Well, like I said. I'm no lawyer and I have no...   Aug 1 2010, 03:15 PM
ArtechnikA   ...Can you sue the state or federal government if...   Aug 1 2010, 03:37 PM
Silverstreak   I see. I realise it's not legal to do 100mph a...   Aug 1 2010, 04:09 PM
auerbach   Lime Rock, Monticello, New Jersey Motorsports Park...   Aug 1 2010, 04:20 PM
WordSmith   Lime Rock, Monticello, New Jersey Motorsports Par...   Aug 1 2010, 08:48 PM
bandjoey   Talk to the local PCA group. They purchase insura...   Aug 1 2010, 10:11 PM
carr914   Not a new idea, but not a good one in this economy...   Aug 2 2010, 06:46 AM
Silverstreak   Is Spring Mountain a for profit facility? The limi...   Aug 2 2010, 05:25 PM
Silverstreak   Oh, and pardon my ignorance but, WTF is a DE? Driv...   Aug 2 2010, 05:27 PM
ArtechnikA   Oh, and pardon my ignorance but, WTF is a DE? Dri...   Aug 2 2010, 05:33 PM
Silverstreak   Oh, and pardon my ignorance but, WTF is a DE? Dr...   Aug 2 2010, 05:40 PM
ArtechnikA   Oh! Thanks. I was considering doing this at S...   Aug 2 2010, 07:16 PM
Silverstreak   Haha, I see what you're saying. I'll have ...   Aug 2 2010, 07:54 PM
carr914   [quote name='ArtechnikA' post='1351374' date='Aug...   Aug 3 2010, 12:17 AM
roadster fan   First time I heard about this facility the wheels ...   Aug 3 2010, 12:36 AM
Silverstreak   First time I heard about this facility the wheels...   Aug 3 2010, 05:28 PM
URY914   A real race track is a whole bunch different than ...   Aug 3 2010, 05:08 PM
URY914   The Birmingham track is named after the founder. H...   Aug 3 2010, 07:14 PM
Silverstreak   The Birmingham track is named after the founder. ...   Aug 3 2010, 09:14 PM
John   DE's are not as cost prohibitive as one may th...   Aug 3 2010, 08:28 PM
Silverstreak   The slower (and older) the car, the more the driv...   Aug 3 2010, 09:20 PM
carr914   John make some good points about DE's and he a...   Aug 3 2010, 09:14 PM
carr914   The 350Z will be a good track car and depending on...   Aug 3 2010, 09:53 PM
Silverstreak   The 350Z will be a good track car and depending o...   Aug 4 2010, 10:39 PM
ArtechnikA   ...Do they have DE's at Sebring? This is a qu...   Aug 5 2010, 05:02 AM
carr914   :lol4: Holy crap! Into a lake!? How t...   Aug 5 2010, 07:10 AM
Silverstreak   [quote name='Silverstreak' post='1352358' date='A...   Aug 5 2010, 05:54 PM


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