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charliew
post Aug 11 2010, 05:20 PM
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post Aug 12 2010, 07:04 AM
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WHy the hell should the amount I earn, or be worth have anything to do with my fine? The law should be equally applied, but since this law is a percentage it is just a joke, anyway have a look at this


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post Aug 12 2010, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(veltror @ Aug 12 2010, 05:04 AM) *

WHy the hell should the amount I earn, or be worth have anything to do with my fine? The law should be equally applied, but since this law is a percentage it is just a joke


No, I think you're mistaken. A fine that is a percentage of income is not a joke, and that in fact is the entire point. A fine is supposed to be punishment and a deterrent, right? Fifty bucks gets my attention, but fining a billionaire fifty bucks is in fact a joke. You may as well not even bother and just give him a permanent exemption from obeying the law, because you sure haven't punished or deterred anything. So is that better? Just let him break the law, no punishment, when you and I need to heed?

That's the logic, and it does make sense. To me, anyway. For regular people it's nothing especially notable. What makes this news is the astounding amount of the fine, but that's only because the perpetrator made SO MUCH DAMNED MONEY. That's two weeks of his salary? My god.
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post Aug 13 2010, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Aug 12 2010, 02:52 PM) *

QUOTE(veltror @ Aug 12 2010, 05:04 AM) *

WHy the hell should the amount I earn, or be worth have anything to do with my fine? The law should be equally applied, but since this law is a percentage it is just a joke


No, I think you're mistaken. A fine that is a percentage of income is not a joke, and that in fact is the entire point. A fine is supposed to be punishment and a deterrent, right? Fifty bucks gets my attention, but fining a billionaire fifty bucks is in fact a joke. You may as well not even bother and just give him a permanent exemption from obeying the law, because you sure haven't punished or deterred anything. So is that better? Just let him break the law, no punishment, when you and I need to heed?

That's the logic, and it does make sense. To me, anyway. For regular people it's nothing especially notable. What makes this news is the astounding amount of the fine, but that's only because the perpetrator made SO MUCH DAMNED MONEY. That's two weeks of his salary? My god.




problem with income based "fines' is the crooked coppers will go after the "rich "guys to rake in the dough, kind of unfair to have a high price on your head just becuase you worked hard and made it. yeah what a juicy target, get the hard working well off guy for going 3 mph over the limit, and let that lazy poor guy go even at 20 mph over the limit, cuase his fine is not worth the time to fill out the ticket. that seems fair (NOT)

maybe in fairness, all monetary fines should be elimited, and you instead must pick up trash along the road way, or serve time in the penalty box. rich or poor you pick up trash. that would work for me, and that removes the god dam governmants finacial incentive to rig tickets.


in californazia there are considering laws that would allow only special new cars (alternate fuel cars) to use carpool lanes 24 hours a day, and ban all use by low life poor folks that cant afford a new car from the lanes we paid all for. more social engineering by the socialists! they want you out of yoru car.

keep posted on anti-car hobby legislation by visiting the SEMA website, governmant affair section, find a lisitn by state and nation of pending car laws, and info on what you can do about it.



golly the governmental pigs sure hate drivers

stupid law, stupid law.
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charliew   Up to 942,000 speeding fine   Aug 11 2010, 05:20 PM
SLITS   Yeeee Hawwwww!   Aug 11 2010, 05:30 PM
azbill   That's why I don't speed when in Europe. W...   Aug 11 2010, 05:47 PM
corsepervita   Depending on income level it says. That's kin...   Aug 11 2010, 06:40 PM
patssle   And what gives the local police the right to your ...   Aug 11 2010, 06:56 PM
Tom   Jeewhizz, in that case my speeding would cost noth...   Aug 11 2010, 07:04 PM
tornik550   My two cents on this article- 1. Mercedes must ne...   Aug 11 2010, 07:22 PM
whatabout1   Yea, $ 7.00 for 20 over !!! (my ...   Aug 11 2010, 07:26 PM
DBCooper   In that perspective it makes a lot of sense. Givi...   Aug 11 2010, 09:17 PM
veltror   WHy the hell should the amount I earn, or be worth...   Aug 12 2010, 07:04 AM
DBCooper   WHy the hell should the amount I earn, or be wort...   Aug 12 2010, 03:52 PM
realred914   WHy the hell should the amount I earn, or be wor...   Aug 13 2010, 12:42 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38660951/ns/wo...rope...   Aug 12 2010, 09:31 AM
plymouth37   That wasn't just any "black Mercedes...   Aug 12 2010, 11:24 AM
Drums66   WoW....he should have known better?...I'm surp...   Aug 12 2010, 12:02 PM
914pwer   [quote name='charliew' post='1355209' date='Aug 1...   Aug 12 2010, 02:59 PM
charliew   Here the few wealthy people I know that play with ...   Aug 12 2010, 04:59 PM
veltror   I am not mistaken, I work hard, dont get stoned dr...   Aug 13 2010, 04:02 AM
johannes   That is not Europe. That is Swizerland... This le...   Aug 13 2010, 06:06 AM
charliew   I think in the link I posted the car would have be...   Aug 13 2010, 05:11 PM


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