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> 2.7L, So why is 2.7L the motor to avoid?
qa1142
post Aug 28 2010, 12:05 PM
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If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to build what do you want and what do you want to avoid?

2.2

2.4

2.7

3.0

3.2

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post Aug 28 2010, 05:13 PM
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2.7s pull studs from the soft metal mag cases. Porsche has found the Dilavar studs weren't the answer to the problem, and they've gone back to steel studs. Case savers are a requirement. 3.0 engines break studs, often right down at the deck. An EDM is required to fix this, along with case savers. My guy gets 50 bucks a hole. We just did an SC engine with EIGHT broken studs.
Pressure fed tensioners are OK, but the conversion is major dollars, bucks that could be better spent elsewhere. They CAN fail. I've seen it. A good rebuild of the late SC tensioners and the addition of chain guards sets you back 50-60 bucks in parts and they last for ages.
2.7 engines need a well designed front oil cooler setup. Built 2.4s might, too.
As for weight, everything that moves is the same weight between a 2.7 and a 3.0, with the exception of the pistons. I doubt they rev any more freely.
A 5 blade fan works fine if you have the correct fan ring and drive pulleys. The urban legends regarding the subject are like most urban legends ..............

That said, if I were building a performance motor for my car, I'd build a 2.5 based on a 2.0 S crank and an aluminum case, with ported big valve heads. The machinists I use say they can get me right about 200 HP from a street drivable 2.2, so a short stroke 2.5 should be a revvin'n fool, and have even better HP.

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qa1142   2.7L   Aug 28 2010, 12:05 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   as all 911 engines are very very expensive to buil...   Aug 28 2010, 12:27 PM
RobW   As George said, the 2.7 had head stud problems, bu...   Aug 28 2010, 12:32 PM
Rav914   I think a lot of the perceived issues with the 2.7...   Aug 28 2010, 12:53 PM
scotty b   2.7 is a great hot rod motor, especially if you pl...   Aug 28 2010, 01:00 PM
brant   the 2.7's seem to rev a little nicer too I thi...   Aug 28 2010, 01:05 PM
carr914   I think a lot of the perceived issues with the 2....   Aug 28 2010, 01:07 PM
qa1142   So it took me 4 years to get my 2.0L built and int...   Aug 28 2010, 01:53 PM
pcar916   So it took me 4 years to get my 2.0L built and in...   Aug 28 2010, 02:15 PM
J P Stein   The 993 Divilar, full thread, coated studs are the...   Aug 28 2010, 03:46 PM
PRS914-6   2.7....A great deal since people think they are ju...   Aug 28 2010, 04:01 PM
SirAndy   If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to bu...   Aug 28 2010, 04:42 PM
qa1142   If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to b...   Aug 28 2010, 04:51 PM
seebobgo   If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to b...   Aug 28 2010, 07:41 PM
patssle   I just drove home from Austin to Houston my 911 to...   Aug 28 2010, 04:54 PM
carr914   What's wrong with the 911? Rust? 3.0 liters ar...   Aug 28 2010, 04:59 PM
patssle   It's a 1974 with the 81 motor. I'm not sur...   Aug 28 2010, 05:08 PM
Cap'n Krusty   2.7s pull studs from the soft metal mag cases. Po...   Aug 28 2010, 05:13 PM
jfort   [That said, if I were building a performance motor...   Aug 30 2010, 04:37 PM
degreeoff   I think a lot of the perceived issues with the 2...   Aug 28 2010, 05:28 PM
Eric_Shea   Build a 2.7 right and it should be fine. Thermal ...   Aug 28 2010, 06:16 PM
J P Stein   Well, Cap, remind me to not have you build a 2.7L....   Aug 28 2010, 07:06 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Well, Cap, remind me to not have you build a 2.7L...   Aug 28 2010, 08:04 PM
Mark Henry   There is a mod to make the hydraulic tensioner fai...   Aug 28 2010, 07:33 PM
Steve   I installed a 1974 2.7 out of a U.S. 911S Carrerra...   Aug 28 2010, 07:44 PM
bandjoey   If anyone has one of those old stud pulling nasty ...   Aug 28 2010, 08:19 PM
Dr Evil   Here is what I learned when I rebuilt my 74 2.7: ...   Aug 28 2010, 10:06 PM
campbellcj   I love my 2.7. It darn near scared the shit out of...   Aug 28 2010, 10:21 PM
carr914   JP, as Cap & Dr Evil said, Divilars are not th...   Aug 29 2010, 03:34 AM
carr914   The 2.5 Twin-Plug on the Dyno. The numbers off the...   Aug 29 2010, 03:38 AM
J P Stein   The stud issue will never be settled here. Suffice...   Aug 29 2010, 12:04 PM
Mark Henry   The stud issue will never be settled here. Suffic...   Aug 29 2010, 01:46 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I would never use collars on tensioners. If th...   Aug 30 2010, 05:06 PM
pete-stevers   The 993 Divilar, full thread, coated studs are th...   Aug 29 2010, 12:40 PM
JmuRiz   Only a couple of people have used 2.7 or 3.0 with ...   Aug 30 2010, 01:17 PM
Mark Henry   Only a couple of people have used 2.7 or 3.0 with...   Aug 30 2010, 01:23 PM
SLITS   Only a couple of people have used 2.7 or 3.0 with...   Aug 30 2010, 04:07 PM


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