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> 2.7L, So why is 2.7L the motor to avoid?
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post Aug 28 2010, 12:05 PM
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If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to build what do you want and what do you want to avoid?

2.2

2.4

2.7

3.0

3.2

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post Aug 28 2010, 10:06 PM
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Here is what I learned when I rebuilt my 74 2.7:

1) As stated, alusil can be reconditioned for cheap. I paid $192 to have all 6 cylinders done at Motorworks in San Diego, CA. That saved me a few grand on new ones as urban legend stated you can not do such a thing. Complete, expensive, unfounded, bull shit. The pistons are not coated in nickasil, they are ferrite coated or some such thing. They will be fine.

2) The 74 is the best starting point as that year did not have the thermal reactors.

3) I was lucky, my case had case savers installed. This is a necessity.

4) You DO NOT need an oil cooler for a 2.7. It is dependent on several things. I kept the stock CIS and CR and my engine had fine oil temps.

5) Oil fed tensioners are not mandatory at all. As Krusty said, use the mechanical ones with locks and be money ahead and have one less failure point in your lube system. I have always felt the oil pressure fed ones to be over engineered and unnecessary.

6) The 74 2.7 had a very peaked tq curve in the low band and then fell on its face. As previously mentioned, a set of SC cams, which I got reground for $200, make the curve a nice flat climb that was a real joy to drive.

7) Divilar is crap. It tends to crack and this is a known failure point. Any moisture gets onto the studs and it begins the degradation process. This is a widely known, and proven point. It is even mentioned in the 911 engine rebuild book published by the guy form Pelican (just one easy place to find it, he is not a guru). I forget what I used, but it was proven to be superior in tests. I needed results I could see rather than hand-me-down knowledge from people.
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qa1142   2.7L   Aug 28 2010, 12:05 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   as all 911 engines are very very expensive to buil...   Aug 28 2010, 12:27 PM
RobW   As George said, the 2.7 had head stud problems, bu...   Aug 28 2010, 12:32 PM
Rav914   I think a lot of the perceived issues with the 2.7...   Aug 28 2010, 12:53 PM
scotty b   2.7 is a great hot rod motor, especially if you pl...   Aug 28 2010, 01:00 PM
brant   the 2.7's seem to rev a little nicer too I thi...   Aug 28 2010, 01:05 PM
carr914   I think a lot of the perceived issues with the 2....   Aug 28 2010, 01:07 PM
qa1142   So it took me 4 years to get my 2.0L built and int...   Aug 28 2010, 01:53 PM
pcar916   So it took me 4 years to get my 2.0L built and in...   Aug 28 2010, 02:15 PM
J P Stein   The 993 Divilar, full thread, coated studs are the...   Aug 28 2010, 03:46 PM
PRS914-6   2.7....A great deal since people think they are ju...   Aug 28 2010, 04:01 PM
SirAndy   If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to bu...   Aug 28 2010, 04:42 PM
qa1142   If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to b...   Aug 28 2010, 04:51 PM
seebobgo   If someone is going to start looking for a 6 to b...   Aug 28 2010, 07:41 PM
patssle   I just drove home from Austin to Houston my 911 to...   Aug 28 2010, 04:54 PM
carr914   What's wrong with the 911? Rust? 3.0 liters ar...   Aug 28 2010, 04:59 PM
patssle   It's a 1974 with the 81 motor. I'm not sur...   Aug 28 2010, 05:08 PM
Cap'n Krusty   2.7s pull studs from the soft metal mag cases. Po...   Aug 28 2010, 05:13 PM
jfort   [That said, if I were building a performance motor...   Aug 30 2010, 04:37 PM
degreeoff   I think a lot of the perceived issues with the 2...   Aug 28 2010, 05:28 PM
Eric_Shea   Build a 2.7 right and it should be fine. Thermal ...   Aug 28 2010, 06:16 PM
J P Stein   Well, Cap, remind me to not have you build a 2.7L....   Aug 28 2010, 07:06 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Well, Cap, remind me to not have you build a 2.7L...   Aug 28 2010, 08:04 PM
Mark Henry   There is a mod to make the hydraulic tensioner fai...   Aug 28 2010, 07:33 PM
Steve   I installed a 1974 2.7 out of a U.S. 911S Carrerra...   Aug 28 2010, 07:44 PM
bandjoey   If anyone has one of those old stud pulling nasty ...   Aug 28 2010, 08:19 PM
Dr Evil   Here is what I learned when I rebuilt my 74 2.7: ...   Aug 28 2010, 10:06 PM
campbellcj   I love my 2.7. It darn near scared the shit out of...   Aug 28 2010, 10:21 PM
carr914   JP, as Cap & Dr Evil said, Divilars are not th...   Aug 29 2010, 03:34 AM
carr914   The 2.5 Twin-Plug on the Dyno. The numbers off the...   Aug 29 2010, 03:38 AM
J P Stein   The stud issue will never be settled here. Suffice...   Aug 29 2010, 12:04 PM
Mark Henry   The stud issue will never be settled here. Suffic...   Aug 29 2010, 01:46 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I would never use collars on tensioners. If th...   Aug 30 2010, 05:06 PM
pete-stevers   The 993 Divilar, full thread, coated studs are th...   Aug 29 2010, 12:40 PM
JmuRiz   Only a couple of people have used 2.7 or 3.0 with ...   Aug 30 2010, 01:17 PM
Mark Henry   Only a couple of people have used 2.7 or 3.0 with...   Aug 30 2010, 01:23 PM
SLITS   Only a couple of people have used 2.7 or 3.0 with...   Aug 30 2010, 04:07 PM


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