914 engine conversion: water-cooled hose specs, Engine-to-radiator and water-air intercooler hoses |
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914 engine conversion: water-cooled hose specs, Engine-to-radiator and water-air intercooler hoses |
strawman |
Sep 7 2010, 07:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 8,624 Region Association: Central California |
I've searched but can't seem to find definitive answers about what size and specs for the coolant hoses for my turbo Subaru engined conversion. I'm interested in real world experience from others that have running water-cooled conversions. Based on my research of this site, I've decided to follow most conversion guys' use of rubber hoses in lieu of SS or aluminum pipes for the long run between the engine and radiator -- run in the recesses along the bottom of the chassis.
Renegade Hybrids sells Gates Green Stripe (or equivalent) hose, in 11' of 1-1/4" ID and 13' of 1" ID for -- including clamps -- for $100. According to their website, they recommend 1-1/4" I.D. from lower radiator to pump and 1" I.D. from upper radiator to the thermostat housing. Those sizes provided by Renegade would require that I use adaptors for both ends on each hose(engine and radiator), so I've searched the usual suspects like Ebay, NAPA, Rock Auto and marine suppliers for bulk heavy-duty 1-1/2" ID hoses -- but my head is spinning from all the options. Is a "hardwall" rubber hose required (the type with wire reinforcement) for the engine-radiator hose? If so, marine exhaust hose seems to sell for ~$5.00 to $8.00 per foot on Ebay. It seems like the suction side should be beefier so that it doesn't collapse when hot, but maybe that is not important, so a two-ply polyester-reinforced hose might suffice. Any opinions from you Chevy V8, Subaru or other guys? I'm also looking for 25' of 3/4" ID heater hose for my water-air intercooler setup, as my heat exchanger is mounted in front of the radiator. Again, is hardwall rubber hose required, or would any high-quality two-ply polyester-reinforced hose work? Thanks for your opinions! Geoff |
Britain Smith |
Sep 8 2010, 10:33 AM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Why is it not a good idea to run aluminum pipe? I was planning on running thru the interior, passenger side as running under the car is not an option for ground clearance.
-Britain |
strawman |
Sep 8 2010, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 8,624 Region Association: Central California |
Why is it not a good idea to run aluminum pipe? I was planning on running thru the interior, passenger side as running under the car is not an option for ground clearance. -Britain Hi Britain -- My understanding is that metal pipes could burst if scraped over speedbumps, etc., whereas rubber hose will "give" -- up to a certain point. But since your car is a trailered autox monster, you wouldn't have to worry about that. I'm also not a big fan of coolant hoses running inside the cab of a car, but since yours is not a street car and the pipes wouldn't be "soft," you're probably fine. I suppose it might be wise to check the sanctioning body (SCCA? PCA?) to see if they address that issue, though... Geoff |
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