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| poorsche914 |
 Sep 6 2010, 05:57 PM
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T4 Supercharged  Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States  |
I finally decided to tackle getting my LE started and thought the long Labor Day weekend would be the perfect time. I had already replaced the fuel tank and lines up front and had sourced '74 FI parts and bought a new Optima battery. The final piece to the puzzle was a working fuel pump which I got a couple weeks ago.
So this weekend I installed the pump and put power to it. It ran but wasn't pumping fuel up to the engine. I heard gurgling from the tank. Low fuel level. So I added more gas and tried again. Success! Fuel was now being pumped to the fuel rail but there were several leaks. Took care of these and cranked it. Nothing. Pulled two injectors and saw they were not firing. Swapped out harnesses and more of the same. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have both a single progressive and dual 40s. I seriously contemplated pulling the FI and installing the single Weber after a rebuild just to get the car running. After chatting with mipstein I had a few things I thought I should try first. I put power to each injector and they all fired so that took bad injectors out of the equation. I looked over pbanders d-jet page for clues. Somewhere along the way I realized the ECU was not getting power and perhaps the relay board was suspect. Having two extra boards, I picked one, transferred relays, etc and plugged it into the 914's harnesses. Turned the key, let fuel pressure build, cranked it and she fired right up!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) Vacuum lines, etc aren't hooked up so it revved high before I turned it off. Next step is to hook up all the vac lines (and install new shift bushings, install accel pedal, etc, etc) Goal is to have it on the road for MUSR11 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| hot_shoe914 |
Sep 6 2010, 10:08 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,806 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Sep 6 2010, 06:57 PM)  I finally decided to tackle getting my LE started and thought the long Labor Day weekend would be the perfect time. I had already replaced the fuel tank and lines up front and had sourced '74 FI parts and bought a new Optima battery. The final piece to the puzzle was a working fuel pump which I got a couple weeks ago. So this weekend I installed the pump and put power to it. It ran but wasn't pumping fuel up to the engine. I heard gurgling from the tank. Low fuel level. So I added more gas and tried again. Success! Fuel was now being pumped to the fuel rail but there were several leaks. Took care of these and cranked it. Nothing. Pulled two injectors and saw they were not firing. Swapped out harnesses and more of the same. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have both a single progressive and dual 40s. I seriously contemplated pulling the FI and installing the single Weber after a rebuild just to get the car running. After chatting with mipstein I had a few things I thought I should try first. I put power to each injector and they all fired so that took bad injectors out of the equation. I looked over pbanders d-jet page for clues. Somewhere along the way I realized the ECU was not getting power and perhaps the relay board was suspect. Having two extra boards, I picked one, transferred relays, etc and plugged it into the 914's harnesses. Turned the key, let fuel pressure build, cranked it and she fired right up!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) Vacuum lines, etc aren't hooked up so it revved high before I turned it off. Next step is to hook up all the vac lines (and install new shift bushings, install accel pedal, etc, etc) Goal is to have it on the road for MUSR11 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 8 2010, 02:42 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Got a vacuum line kit from AA and installed it last night. Hooked everything up according to the schematic which was very helpful.
Turned the key and it would turn over but not fire. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Pump runs for several seconds and then turns off so apparently system is getting pressurized. Today I tried some starting fluid to see if that would help. Nothing. Unhooked the advance and plugged the nipple on the throttle body. Pulled a plug wire and inserted a spare plug to check for fire. Had my son turn the key. It fired right up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Since I was holding a plug wire, I told him to turn it off. Ran about 5 seconds or so. Replaced plug wire and tried to start it. Started to fire and then BOOOOOM and a cloud of white smoke out the tail pipe. Now, it won't crank. The starter just clicks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Any ideas? Not sure how the BOOM would be related to the starter not working. The motor is not locked up. |
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| dvtorr |
Oct 10 2010, 12:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Colorado Member No.: 12,138 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 8 2010, 12:42 PM) Got a vacuum line kit from AA and installed it last night. Hooked everything up according to the schematic which was very helpful. Turned the key and it would turn over but not fire. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Pump runs for several seconds and then turns off so apparently system is getting pressurized. Today I tried some starting fluid to see if that would help. Nothing. Unhooked the advance and plugged the nipple on the throttle body. Pulled a plug wire and inserted a spare plug to check for fire. Had my son turn the key. It fired right up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Since I was holding a plug wire, I told him to turn it off. Ran about 5 seconds or so. Replaced plug wire and tried to start it. Started to fire and then BOOOOOM and a cloud of white smoke out the tail pipe. Now, it won't crank. The starter just clicks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Any ideas? Not sure how the BOOM would be related to the starter not working. The motor is not locked up. is it a click or more like a clunk sounds? Same thing happened to me and Idk if my motor is seized up or not. Right now Im stuck on this.. Figuring out the problem isnt easy! what is a BFH treatment for the starter? |
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 10 2010, 12:43 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(dvtorr @ Oct 10 2010, 02:36 PM) is it a click or more like a clunk sounds? Same thing happened to me and Idk if my motor is seized up or not. Right now Im stuck on this.. Figuring out the problem isnt easy! what is a BFH treatment for the starter? For me, it was a click at the starter. I removed the starter and gave it the BFH treatment which is banging on it with a hammer. Whatever was stuck came unstuck and it has been working ever since. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) As far as my electrical issue - hooked up the center console gauges and none of them work. Well, except for the clock (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Any idea what one main thing might be keeping all the gauges and blinkers and dash lights from working? As an added note, the hazard lights work but does not show on the indicator on the tach. |
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| dvtorr |
Oct 10 2010, 01:29 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Colorado Member No.: 12,138 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 10 2010, 10:43 AM) QUOTE(dvtorr @ Oct 10 2010, 02:36 PM) is it a click or more like a clunk sounds? Same thing happened to me and Idk if my motor is seized up or not. Right now Im stuck on this.. Figuring out the problem isnt easy! what is a BFH treatment for the starter? For me, it was a click at the starter. I removed the starter and gave it the BFH treatment which is banging on it with a hammer. Whatever was stuck came unstuck and it has been working ever since. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) As far as my electrical issue - hooked up the center console gauges and none of them work. Well, except for the clock (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Any idea what one main thing might be keeping all the gauges and blinkers and dash lights from working? As an added note, the hazard lights work but does not show on the indicator on the tach. Did you ever try to push start your car before you gave it the BFH treatment? |
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 10 2010, 01:33 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(dvtorr @ Oct 10 2010, 03:29 PM) Did you ever try to push start your car before you gave it the BFH treatment? |
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| poorsche914 |
Oct 10 2010, 06:53 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
After mulling this over and searching the forums for hints, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/head_hurts_kr.gif) I still don't know why the gauges, wipers, turn signals, etc do not work.
The car starts and runs but the gauges do not work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) Hazard switch works but the indicator on the tach does not blink. The turn signals do not work. The wipers do not work. The A/C fan does not work. The fuel gauge & low fuel light do not work. These all worked when I first put a battery in the car a few months ago. For a period of time recently, I noticed when I activated the turn signals, they only caused a bzzzzz noise and no indicator light. I have not messed with the wiring beyond replacing the FI harness and the relay board. Swapped out four different boards. Could the ignition switch be faulty? Thanks for any suggestions, etc. |
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poorsche914 Creamsicle Project Sep 6 2010, 05:57 PM
NC_Colfax From what I have read the single weber is poo and ... Sep 6 2010, 07:11 PM PanelBilly Next week I start stripping mine for a full paint ... Sep 6 2010, 09:45 PM
hot_shoe914
Got a vacuum line kit from AA and installed it la... Oct 8 2010, 05:58 PM
poorsche914
The starter just clicking sounds like solenoid. ... Oct 8 2010, 06:18 PM hot_shoe914
is it a click or more like a clunk sounds? Same t... Oct 10 2010, 12:46 PM poorsche914
Back up a step. You said you swapped out the rela... Oct 10 2010, 12:57 PM hot_shoe914
After mulling this over and searching the forums ... Oct 10 2010, 07:52 PM Spoke
Could the ignition switch be faulty?
Thanks for ... Oct 10 2010, 08:11 PM poorsche914 jt - will check those wires tomorrow. Thanks for t... Oct 10 2010, 08:23 PM swl
Could the ignition switch be faulty?
That's... Oct 12 2010, 02:46 PM poorsche914
Could the ignition switch be faulty?
That's ... Oct 12 2010, 03:00 PM Spoke How do you know the engine isn't locked up?
I... Oct 8 2010, 07:28 PM poorsche914 How do you know the engine isn't locked up?I p... Oct 8 2010, 08:26 PM poorsche914 Pulled the starter this morning and applied the BF... Oct 9 2010, 09:52 AM hot_shoe914
Pulled the starter this morning and applied the B... Oct 9 2010, 10:57 AM Spoke :headbanger:
Good show!
This is the opposit... Oct 10 2010, 05:16 AM poorsche914 Main goal of getting the engine started has been r... Oct 10 2010, 11:44 AM hot_shoe914
Main goal of getting the engine started has been ... Oct 10 2010, 12:06 PM JRust Are the gages connected? Have you had them out sin... Oct 10 2010, 12:09 PM poorsche914 Yeah, did the obvious of checking fuses, grounds, ... Oct 10 2010, 12:21 PM hot_shoe914 I know why you can't get it fixed. Because you... Oct 10 2010, 01:03 PM poorsche914 I currently have no way to do electrical tests. Wi... Oct 10 2010, 01:12 PM hot_shoe914
I currently have no way to do electrical tests. W... Oct 10 2010, 01:29 PM jt914-6 Check all the large guage wires, four, that connec... Oct 10 2010, 08:01 PM ClayPerrine Bring it to MUSR and I will take a look at it for ... Oct 11 2010, 11:07 AM poorsche914
Bring it to MUSR and I will take a look at it for... Oct 11 2010, 11:28 AM poorsche914 Long story short, I had swapped out the fuel pump ... Oct 12 2010, 09:32 AM type47 Just a guess, but your turn signal/emergency flash... Oct 12 2010, 09:47 AM poorsche914
Just a guess, but your turn signal/emergency flas... Oct 12 2010, 09:50 AM jt914-6 Trailer it down if you can....as Clay said...there... Oct 12 2010, 09:55 AM poorsche914
Trailer it down if you can....as Clay said...ther... Oct 12 2010, 10:09 AM jt914-6 How far away are you from Knoxville/Vonore??? Oct 12 2010, 10:27 AM poorsche914
How far away are you from Knoxville/Vonore???
Ab... Oct 12 2010, 10:30 AM poorsche914 Started swapping out relays on the board to see wh... Oct 12 2010, 02:41 PM jt914-6 PM Shoe....I think he has both switch and fuel pum... Oct 12 2010, 03:06 PM poorsche914
PM Shoe....I think he has both switch and fuel pu... Oct 12 2010, 03:09 PM robby750 You are so close to Vonore that it would be worth ... Oct 12 2010, 03:11 PM poorsche914
You are so close to Vonore that it would be worth... Oct 12 2010, 03:15 PM poorsche914 Well... I swapped out fuel pumps again <_< ... Oct 13 2010, 10:57 AM hot_shoe914
Well... I swapped out fuel pumps again <_... Oct 13 2010, 05:19 PM poorsche914 Does this mean you are driving it to the ramble?
I... Oct 13 2010, 05:40 PM Spoke
Right front caliper is sticking pretty bad. :(
... Oct 13 2010, 05:47 PM poorsche914 The right front caliper was sticking on my 914. I ... Oct 13 2010, 06:33 PM poorsche914 Update:
Used some PBlaster on the front caliper ... Oct 22 2010, 12:09 PM |
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