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| Corkus |
 Jul 27 2010, 12:01 PM
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Please tell me about the different ways to reinforce the longs on the 914. My car is on the rack and it is time to reinforce this area and things are moving too fast for me to keep up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I have seen the Engman Inner Long Reinforcement kit and the Tangerine Racing Door Sills kit. I think I saw a third kit that reinforced the footwells at the same time as the longs but I can't find that kit again. I'm confused about the different kits, the terms that describe the longs and the different ways to reinforce this part of the car. Please clue me in if you know. I'm not even sure what the difference is between "Longs" and "Inner Longs", if there is any. So, you can assume I know nothing here. Any help is appreciated. Thanks all. |
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| McMark |
Nov 4 2010, 05:31 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
More info to add to the debate.
Look at how deep/wide the inner C section is compared to the outer. It would seem like the outer section, which is shallow as well as ribbed, would already be strong and therefore the inner would be the weak section and would most benefit from reinforcement. The arrows point to the joining lines between the inner and outer sections. Attached image(s) 
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| ChrisFoley |
Nov 4 2010, 07:23 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,962 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 4 2010, 07:31 PM)  Look at how deep/wide the inner C section is compared to the outer. It would seem like the outer section, which is shallow as well as ribbed, would already be strong and therefore the inner would be the weak section and would most benefit from reinforcement. I disagree. If what you say is true, it would have been better to use two of the outer panels and save space. It's the combined shape of a box beam that makes the longitudinals work, and the wider crossection is definitely better. If one stiffens either side of the box the entire unit will be stronger. The Brad Mayeur kit is thicker. It makes the chassis stiffer. I'm not convinced that the engman piece across the firewall is of great value. That part of the firewall is already box shaped and part of a larger panel as well. It isn't susceptible to flexing IMO. I tested the flex on several chassis' earlier this year and the stiffest one was reinforced with a modified Brad Mayeur Kit. |
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Corkus Longs Reinforcement Questions Jul 27 2010, 12:01 PM
McMark The part you linked to for Tangerine Racing Door S... Jul 27 2010, 12:07 PM
Corkus Thanks Mark.
So when people talk about strengthen... Jul 27 2010, 01:02 PM Root_Werks The weakest area of the long is about were the E-b... Jul 27 2010, 01:10 PM Grelber I have the Brad Mayeur (914ltd) outer long reinfor... Jul 27 2010, 02:57 PM Corkus OK, so now I'm getting somewhere. These are in... Jul 27 2010, 10:25 PM siverson > I'm thinking of going with both the Engma... Jul 27 2010, 10:36 PM Elliot Cannon Go with the Engman kit. When you do, drill the ho... Jul 27 2010, 11:38 PM bugsy0
Go with the Engman kit. When you do, drill the h... Jul 28 2010, 09:20 AM cstone12
Go with the Engman kit. When you do, drill the ... Jul 29 2010, 11:32 AM Vacca Rabite
[quote name='bugsy0' post='1348993' date='Jul 28 ... Jul 29 2010, 12:38 PM nsyr
[quote name='bugsy0' post='1348993' date='Jul 28 ... Jul 29 2010, 12:40 PM Bartlett 914 I am sure the Engman kit is very good but the Brad... Jul 28 2010, 09:30 AM Justinp71
I am sure the Engman kit is very good but the Bra... Aug 10 2010, 10:32 PM 9146986 Brad Mayeur's kit reinforces the outer suspens... Jul 28 2010, 11:56 AM charliew I know this is about stiffening kits but hopefully... Aug 10 2010, 06:12 PM d914 throw tagerine racing back into the picture w its ... Aug 10 2010, 08:45 PM RobW Doesn't it all depend on what you use it for, ... Aug 10 2010, 09:13 PM cstone12 What about the ClamShells? Are those a good optio... Aug 10 2010, 09:29 PM peteyd Restoration design also has a outer longitudinal r... Aug 11 2010, 10:46 AM JmuRiz Has anyone actually done both the Brad Meyeur and ... Aug 11 2010, 12:26 PM wreglesworth Hi,
I need to do something with my longitudinals a... Oct 31 2010, 11:30 PM Andyrew We need to see the condition of your longs now.. M... Oct 31 2010, 11:43 PM sean_v8_914 I did a car with both for a customer. both at the ... Nov 1 2010, 12:11 AM Racer Chris I can't stand the way the Brad Mayeur pieces t... Nov 1 2010, 08:10 AM mepstein IMO, the ever popular "GT stiffening kit... Nov 4 2010, 05:51 PM Racer Chris
Chris - I'm dropping a 3.2 into my car and ad... Nov 4 2010, 07:34 PM iamchappy I put both kits, inner and outer into my car and r... Nov 4 2010, 06:48 PM JmuRiz What needs reinforcing on the suspension console? ... Nov 4 2010, 08:16 PM |
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