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jim912928
post Dec 4 2010, 12:31 AM
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Well, I have all of the mechanical work done for my 3.2l motronic conversion. Now I'm trying to figure out the wiring. I purchased the Patrick MotorSports conversion harness a few years back. It allows me to eliminate the relay board. However, electrical is not my forte...so I have some real questions on the "trunk" wires from the 3.2l harness and what to do with them. The engine, dme and wiring harness are all from the same car. So, here are my questions and you can relate them to the pictures as shown:

1. picture named "DME help" circle #1: by the dme connector...there are two little stub connections that seem to come out of the DME connector and both wires are brown....do these need to go to anything?

2. picture named "Trunk help" circle #2: I marked these fuel pump...do I cap these because I'm using the 914 wiring or do I need to connect them somewhere?

3. picture named "Trunk help" circle #3: I marked this positive battery...does the 914 harness cover this or do I need to connect it to the battery also?

3. picture named "Trunk help" circle #4: green and green/yellow wire...have no clue what this is?

4. picture named "Trunk help" circle #5: black wire by the wires I labeled "fuel pump"...have no clue what this is?

5. picture named "Trunk help" circle #6: white connector with a black, black/purple and yellow wire...have no clue what this is?

I also would like to know where you usually mount the DME and where do you pass it through from the passenger compartment into the engine compartment..and once on the engine compartment side...where do you route it up to the engine? Have pics from those angles?

Thanks all in advance!

Jim

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post Dec 9 2010, 03:50 PM
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Joe Sharpe did a great job on MoveQik's Sixer!!! It is one of the threads that needs to be read in detail.

The thread from the Pelican Board is a great one also, but it covers/indirectly sourced from Sixer conversions generally with excellent points, may refer to some elements for CIS which is a different animal than Motronics. Definitely a major detail read to understand.

There are many other threads on these different boards covering the Sixer 3.2 conversion. They can be researched and studied in equal detail. They are excellent.
Some names that popup are Summersled(?), A914Guy, MoveQik, Joe Sharpe, and many others which I did research several years ago. I cannot remember their names but they deserve the credit for providing quality information regarding the 914 3.2 engine conversion. Some more names are Sir Andy (3.6 conversion), McMark, Brad Mayeur; Yes, even Brad Roberts (disregarding the Politico Events, he really helped people including myself). Just so many who have done a great job in providing information so we can do our hobby, building Sixer 3.2 conversions. Enough said about that.

There is information available from these different sources that should at least give a background in what has been used; and, the people who answered this thread as well as other historic contributors can give you information. Pelican Board has a very good general background paper and list of parts including what to generally look for during the conversion. There many pros and cons concerning such things as transmission to which MoveQik states and alludes to when using the 901 transaxle.

I think the extra items which some of you are getting to can be readily provided but may be out of timing with this thread. I would like to keep the thread within the frame work of the electrical and problems surrounding it. Generally, we can give you whatever information that you need to get a valid pro and con using a one-on-one basis; or, we can undertake that information as everyone needs it.

You have to participate in getting a background on this info since you will be the one doing the work (hopefully), and you can have understanding in what is going on within your electrical, fuel, etc. systems.

Sorry I got long winded but the more you understand, the easier the conversion will be.
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QUOTE(shoguneagle @ Dec 9 2010, 04:50 PM) *

Joe Sharpe did a great job on MoveQik's Sixer!!! It is one of the threads that needs to be read in detail.

The thread from the Pelican Board is a great one also, but it covers/indirectly sourced from Sixer conversions generally with excellent points, may refer to some elements for CIS which is a different animal than Motronics. Definitely a major detail read to understand.

There are many other threads on these different boards covering the Sixer 3.2 conversion. They can be researched and studied in equal detail. They are excellent.
Some names that popup are Summersled(?), A914Guy, MoveQik, Joe Sharpe, and many others which I did research several years ago. I cannot remember their names but they deserve the credit for providing quality information regarding the 914 3.2 engine conversion. Some more names are Sir Andy (3.6 conversion), McMark, Brad Mayeur; Yes, even Brad Roberts (disregarding the Politico Events, he really helped people including myself). Just so many who have done a great job in providing information so we can do our hobby, building Sixer 3.2 conversions. Enough said about that.

There is information available from these different sources that should at least give a background in what has been used; and, the people who answered this thread as well as other historic contributors can give you information. Pelican Board has a very good general background paper and list of parts including what to generally look for during the conversion. There many pros and cons concerning such things as transmission to which MoveQik states and alludes to when using the 901 transaxle.

I think the extra items which some of you are getting to can be readily provided but may be out of timing with this thread. I would like to keep the thread within the frame work of the electrical and problems surrounding it. Generally, we can give you whatever information that you need to get a valid pro and con using a one-on-one basis; or, we can undertake that information as everyone needs it.

You have to participate in getting a background on this info since you will be the one doing the work (hopefully), and you can have understanding in what is going on within your electrical, fuel, etc. systems.

Sorry I got long winded but the more you understand, the easier the conversion will be.


It's obvious you've not just done the research but thought alot about this conversion. What have you decided to do for oil cooling? I will convert the on engine cooler to the 90 degree fitting but I'm still undecided about running lines to the front of my car. Your thoughts? Thanks, mark
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jim912928   help with 3.2l conversion wiring   Dec 4 2010, 12:31 AM
John   You are going to need a schematic and follow the w...   Dec 4 2010, 12:41 AM
shoguneagle   Whoa!!! Let us stop before going any ...   Dec 4 2010, 04:59 AM
jim912928   Thanks for the input so far. Here is additional i...   Dec 4 2010, 09:11 AM
shoguneagle   Hi Jim, The info I have given you thus far is not...   Dec 4 2010, 01:37 PM
mepstein   This is valuable information for all of us doing t...   Dec 4 2010, 02:10 PM
shoguneagle   Pictures: DME help: two brown wires which shoul...   Dec 4 2010, 02:49 PM
shoguneagle   Now to give some more back ground from the schemat...   Dec 4 2010, 03:19 PM
jim912928   Steve...sent you a pm with my email. It ha been 5...   Dec 4 2010, 03:54 PM
shoguneagle   Jim, There is an Tach up shift setup but I did no...   Dec 5 2010, 12:12 AM
jim912928   Thanks Steve!   Dec 5 2010, 09:36 AM
mepstein   Thanks Steve! :agree:   Dec 5 2010, 09:37 AM
echocanyons   Great thread. I am currently doing the same swap,...   Dec 5 2010, 12:07 PM
shoguneagle   The Patrick Jumper just takes care of the 14 pin c...   Dec 5 2010, 09:40 PM
shoguneagle   echocanyons, Sent an e-mail to you. Steve Hurt   Dec 5 2010, 09:57 PM
mepstein   Don't wait for me. I'm still buying parts ...   Dec 5 2010, 10:12 PM
jim912928   I was poking around the pelican site in the 911 fo...   Dec 5 2010, 10:50 PM
echocanyons   Thanks Steve. I plan to have the engine installed...   Dec 6 2010, 12:01 AM
Steve   Great info. The wiring is simple. All I did was ...   Dec 6 2010, 12:33 AM
jim912928   Steve from Laguna...since yours is running...could...   Dec 6 2010, 01:09 AM
mepstein   Steve & Jim - Do you have any other details of...   Dec 6 2010, 07:07 AM
MoveQik   Steve & Jim - Do you have any other details o...   Dec 6 2010, 10:07 AM
mepstein   Steve & Jim - Do you have any other details ...   Dec 6 2010, 12:42 PM
John   Steve & Jim - Do you have any other details o...   Dec 7 2010, 08:29 PM
Steve   I installed it 8 years ago. The motor came out of...   Dec 6 2010, 08:23 AM
jim912928   I found this diagram last night in the owners manu...   Dec 7 2010, 02:46 PM
mepstein   Will an optima battery fit in the normal location ...   Dec 7 2010, 08:37 PM
jim912928   ok...I think I have the mystery solved...I'll ...   Dec 7 2010, 08:42 PM
jim912928   A thought based on the info I outlined above. I h...   Dec 8 2010, 05:20 PM
shoguneagle   Now you are tracking on the right path. You migh...   Dec 9 2010, 03:26 PM
shoguneagle   Joe Sharpe did a great job on MoveQik's Sixer...   Dec 9 2010, 03:50 PM
mepstein   Joe Sharpe did a great job on MoveQik's Sixer...   Dec 9 2010, 04:18 PM
shoguneagle   Has everyone got a basic understanding of what is ...   Dec 9 2010, 06:15 PM
shoguneagle   What have I done to my car?? First one has to und...   Dec 9 2010, 07:19 PM
jim912928   I bought and learned how to use a multimeter! ...   Dec 10 2010, 11:33 PM


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