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is it difficult to use a flux wire welder? what are the do's and don'ts to make it easier?
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Just my old guy input. I have welded with a stick, mig and tig and torch. Not wire flux but I have seen wire flux mild steel welds and there is a lot of cleanup. You will spend the difference in the gas and flux in time and money on cleanup. Grinder wheels burned up metal and wasted time is not my favorite way to do repairs with metal. My sons company actually welds stainless with a mig and they are good at it, had I known how well it works I might have never bought a tig. Although it still is needed for aluminum.
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Just my old guy input. I have welded with a stick, mig and tig and torch. Not wire flux but I have seen wire flux mild steel welds and there is a lot of cleanup. You will spend the difference in the gas and flux in time and money on cleanup. Grinder wheels burned up metal and wasted time is not my favorite way to do repairs with metal. My sons company actually welds stainless with a mig and they are good at it, had I known how well it works I might have never bought a tig. Although it still is needed for aluminum. Does mig requires gas? Are there mugs that uses 120 volts? 220 is not an option 4 me |
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Just my old guy input. I have welded with a stick, mig and tig and torch. Not wire flux but I have seen wire flux mild steel welds and there is a lot of cleanup. You will spend the difference in the gas and flux in time and money on cleanup. Grinder wheels burned up metal and wasted time is not my favorite way to do repairs with metal. My sons company actually welds stainless with a mig and they are good at it, had I known how well it works I might have never bought a tig. Although it still is needed for aluminum. Does mig requires gas? Are there mugs that uses 120 volts? 220 is not an option 4 me yes, migs can run on 110 volts and yes MIG ( Metal Inert GAS) uses the sheilding gas. the gas is used to blow away oxygen form the air that would oxidize the red hot metal, oxygen in the melt would weaken the weld. the argon/CO2 mix in the mig gas will not react with the red hot metal. the gas is INERT! Hobart makes a very capable 110 volt MIG welder, called the Hobart handler, look them up on the web. this is really a first rate small MIG, have used it extensivly, great for autobody metal work a quality maching, no cheapo chinese crap. if you going to weld a bunch, invest in a good welder, not the Costo special. The Hobart Handler has has served my fatehr and me for near 20 years, it is portable. dont let the plastic case fool you,. it is a quality percision welder, ggood transformer, Gun, and drive mechanism, Hobart is a major welding machine maker. this one is not a toy. if you only do a small job, and dont expect to use it often ever again, consider a rental, or buy a cheap one. |
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Just my old guy input. I have welded with a stick, mig and tig and torch. Not wire flux but I have seen wire flux mild steel welds and there is a lot of cleanup. You will spend the difference in the gas and flux in time and money on cleanup. Grinder wheels burned up metal and wasted time is not my favorite way to do repairs with metal. My sons company actually welds stainless with a mig and they are good at it, had I known how well it works I might have never bought a tig. Although it still is needed for aluminum. Does mig requires gas? Are there mugs that uses 120 volts? 220 is not an option 4 me yes, migs can run on 110 volts and yes MIG ( Metal Inert GAS) uses the sheilding gas. the gas is used to blow away oxygen form the air that would oxidize the red hot metal, oxygen in the melt would weaken the weld. the argon/CO2 mix in the mig gas will not react with the red hot metal. the gas is INERT! Hobart makes a very capable 110 volt MIG welder, called the Hobart handler, look them up on the web. this is really a first rate small MIG, have used it extensivly, great for autobody metal work a quality maching, no cheapo chinese crap. if you going to weld a bunch, invest in a good welder, not the Costo special. The Hobart Handler has has served my fatehr and me for near 20 years, it is portable. dont let the plastic case fool you,. it is a quality percision welder, ggood transformer, Gun, and drive mechanism, Hobart is a major welding machine maker. this one is not a toy. if you only do a small job, and dont expect to use it often ever again, consider a rental, or buy a cheap one. I have to endorse the Hobart Handler as well - great welder! I learned without gas and added the tank about a month later. Much cleaner welds and less clean up. Adding the gas bottle was well worth the expense to me. Take your time practicing on scrap metal as suggested above before touching anything on the car. |
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