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tradisrad
post Jun 22 2010, 11:03 AM
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I am going to install my 25 row Earls oil cooler over the 4th of july and I am looking for some more ideas, tip and tricks.

I plan on using a wafer adapter to keep my filter in the stock location. I will also install a thermostat and a fan. I will most likely mount it under the rear trunk.

I'd like to see some pictures of what others have done. Experinces on the wafer adapter vs relocating the oil filter and what thermostats are being used. I've seen the Pelican Article.

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post Dec 14 2010, 06:18 PM
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I recently started down this same path and the first place I went to research was the "Lapuwali Classic Thread Forum"

Specifically I was hoping to find a description/diagrams and pro/cos for the various solutions: Sandwich to nose, to trunk floor, Full flow (?), other setup ..ect.
But there is no OIL LINE/COOLER INSTALLATION thread there presently (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Sooo.... I nominate this one!

It would be nice to merge other Oil related upgrade threads into this one , example:
I recall another thread that detail tapping the case below the OE cooler and required clearancing of motor mount brkt ? What about filter relocation ?
Deep sump, tuna can & dry sump perhaps can go into a separate thread?

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post Dec 15 2010, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(rdauenhauer @ Dec 14 2010, 04:18 PM) *

I recently started down this same path and the first place I went to research was the "Lapuwali Classic Thread Forum"

Specifically I was hoping to find a description/diagrams and pro/cos for the various solutions: Sandwich to nose, to trunk floor, Full flow (?), other setup ..ect.
But there is no OIL LINE/COOLER INSTALLATION thread there presently (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Sooo.... I nominate this one!

It would be nice to merge other Oil related upgrade threads into this one , example:
I recall another thread that detail tapping the case below the OE cooler and required clearancing of motor mount brkt ? What about filter relocation ?
Deep sump, tuna can & dry sump perhaps can go into a separate thread?

What do you think (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)



filter location can be an issue with the sandwhich adaptor used in tradisrads installation. thermostat equiped sandwhich adaptors are kind of tall, and that lowers the oil filter. the stock sized OEM filter is now out of production, but there is a shorter version that is now sold , that will give more clearance with the sandwhich adaptor in place.

for me I will be likely going full flow off the oil filter mounting bracket point on the case. will have two hoses there in and out, then run a remote High Pressure filter and follow that with a plate type cooler simular if not the same as tradisrads. along with an electric fan.


to answer the other question, Yes even stock cars can benifit from an oil cooler, these cars even when new could run hot.

hot climate steep hills can cause oil to get beyond my confmort range (180F is nice, 200 F is hot, and above 220 F it is a probelm as oil pressure wil start to drop (viscosity lowers) beyond this point.

you can see these temps on a hot day.

new oxygenated fuels cause our cars to run hotter (lean burn) since are ecu can not adjust for it (cars with an O2 sensor can adjust and with carbs, you can re-jet)

add that many engiens may have been rebuilt with less than optimal compression, and other engines have dirty cooling fins, and you can get even more high temps.

so yes a stock motor can usually benifit from an external oil cooler. if you see high temps above 220F, then you shoudl consider it (make sure rest of cooling system is in good shape first!)

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tradisrad   External Oil Cooler   Jun 22 2010, 11:03 AM
Elliot Cannon   Cooler under left side of trunk. I have a very lo...   Jun 22 2010, 11:52 AM
Elliot Cannon   more pics   Jun 22 2010, 11:54 AM
Vacca Rabite   Pics of under the trunk cooler... Hey Elliot, I...   Jun 22 2010, 01:05 PM
pcar916   I am going to install my 25 row Earls oil cooler ...   Jun 22 2010, 12:28 PM
Joe Ricard   I don't think I have any pictures but my 2316-...   Jun 22 2010, 01:13 PM
rwilner   The PO of my car installed a front-mounted oil coo...   Jun 22 2010, 02:01 PM
rwilner   Plus getting a short enough filter to get by the...   Jun 22 2010, 02:02 PM
pcar916   ... I DO NOT like the sandwhich method of routing...   Jun 22 2010, 03:44 PM
tradisrad   my engine is a 4 cyl 2056. I was told by Rich at H...   Jun 22 2010, 03:23 PM
Ferg   I've done this twice, works "ok" for...   Jun 22 2010, 03:42 PM
mightyohm   What is the alternative to a sandwich adapter? I ...   Jun 22 2010, 05:05 PM
Dominic   This is a picture of my oil cooler set-up, it...   Jun 22 2010, 05:17 PM
zx-niner   Here's my set-up: Full flow oil, remote filte...   Jun 22 2010, 10:08 PM
campbellcj   Here is my front cooler setup, built for hot clima...   Jun 22 2010, 11:29 PM
tradisrad   zx-niner, wow that is clean. Talk to me a bit abou...   Jun 23 2010, 07:36 AM
Vacca Rabite   Those of you that went to a full flow system, how ...   Jun 23 2010, 07:49 AM
carr914   a REAL GT Cooler a Replica GT Cooler the Rep...   Jun 23 2010, 10:56 AM
carr914   Here is a shroud I made for a front cooler (didn...   Jun 23 2010, 11:05 AM
azbill   This is a picture of my oil cooler set-up, it...   Jun 23 2010, 05:51 PM
tradisrad   Can anyone fill me in on going to a full flow oil ...   Jun 24 2010, 07:40 AM
campbellcj   Can anyone fill me in on going to a full flow oil...   Jun 24 2010, 07:54 AM
Vacca Rabite   For a 4   Jun 24 2010, 07:55 AM
tradisrad   For a 4 thanks..   Jun 24 2010, 08:46 AM
rwilner   A member on club was/is selling their ride on ebay...   Jun 29 2010, 08:02 AM
tat2dphreak   I don't have pics, but I installed a 96-plate ...   Jun 29 2010, 09:59 AM
jhadler   I don't have pics, but I installed a 96-plate...   Jun 29 2010, 01:05 PM
tat2dphreak   near the tranny, but, unlike the one above(post #1...   Jun 29 2010, 02:36 PM
tat2dphreak   went out and snapped a couple pics...   Jun 29 2010, 05:45 PM
tradisrad   I am getting clooser to installing my oil cooler. ...   Jun 30 2010, 08:28 AM
tat2dphreak   I am getting clooser to installing my oil cooler....   Jun 30 2010, 09:10 AM
brp986s   Elephant sells an adjustable fan switch (160 to 20...   Jun 30 2010, 10:08 AM
jhadler   Elephant sells an adjustable fan switch (160 to 2...   Jul 12 2010, 01:45 PM
tradisrad   Elephant sells an adjustable fan switch (160 to ...   Jul 12 2010, 02:00 PM
tat2dphreak   I like that mounting, but don't you lose the r...   Jun 30 2010, 10:21 AM
brp986s   No rain tray on a factory 6.   Jun 30 2010, 10:25 AM
tat2dphreak   No rain tray on a factory 6. :stooges: duh, I...   Jun 30 2010, 10:49 AM
naro914   For Papa Smurf, we have the cooler mounted to the ...   Jun 30 2010, 12:02 PM
tomeric914   EDIT #1: Added picture and filter part number ED...   Jun 30 2010, 01:44 PM
tradisrad   Oil cooler is installed. I mounted it under the re...   Jul 11 2010, 10:21 AM
BigD9146gt   Heres a hardline setup I made for a 912E... The cu...   Jul 11 2010, 12:10 PM
realred914   I dont like the idea of dumping hot air from tehoi...   Jul 11 2010, 12:32 PM
DanT   that is very nice :D   Jul 11 2010, 01:09 PM
gothspeed   Heres a hardline setup I made for a 912E... The c...   Jul 12 2010, 11:22 AM
BigD9146gt   What size thread is that thermostat you used? ...   Jul 12 2010, 12:09 PM
brp986s   The fan is exiting up here. The fan is 20% less e...   Jul 12 2010, 02:32 PM
tradisrad   a little follow up: Before I installed the oil coo...   Jul 15 2010, 07:46 AM
ME733   a little follow up: Before I installed the oil co...   Jul 15 2010, 03:47 PM
Vacca Rabite   I finished my Setrab with fans last night, under t...   Jul 18 2010, 10:30 AM
Vacca Rabite   It was 93 during my 30 mile test. Prior oil temps ...   Jul 18 2010, 01:36 PM
jaxdream   It was 93 during my 30 mile test. Prior oil temps...   Jul 18 2010, 06:20 PM
Vacca Rabite   I'll take some tomorrow. This is the cooler th...   Jul 18 2010, 07:08 PM
tradisrad   I'll take some tomorrow. This is the cooler t...   Jul 19 2010, 09:30 AM
maf914   I'll take some tomorrow. This is the cooler t...   Jul 20 2010, 02:46 PM
Vacca Rabite   I will. Grad school classes started up again this...   Jul 20 2010, 09:22 PM
woodst   Very impressive installations shown here. I wonder...   Jul 21 2010, 02:07 PM
Vacca Rabite   Malte, I would. Zach   Jul 21 2010, 06:58 PM
qa1142   What size is the oil filter thread? 18 x 1.5? 20 x...   Jul 22 2010, 04:10 PM
McMark   3/4" x 16   Jul 22 2010, 04:22 PM
qa1142   So this? http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/25770/1...   Jul 22 2010, 08:03 PM
qa1142   With this kit... http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259...   Jul 22 2010, 08:06 PM
McMark   Those adapters will all work, but space is tight, ...   Jul 22 2010, 09:02 PM
qa1142   Those adapters will all work, but space is tight,...   Jul 22 2010, 09:11 PM
McMark   I have no qualitative analysis. I simply respect ...   Jul 22 2010, 09:22 PM
Vacca Rabite   I'll put pics of mine up tonight. Going to be...   Jul 23 2010, 06:58 AM
qa1142   waiting for the pictures :beer2:   Jul 23 2010, 09:39 AM
tradisrad   I added an LED to my oil temp gauge to indicate wh...   Jul 25 2010, 05:09 PM
qa1142   that's nice   Jul 25 2010, 05:26 PM
Vacca Rabite   Here is a QUICK picture of my setup. http://www.91...   Jul 25 2010, 06:31 PM
qa1142   Zach With it mounted like that, do you really need...   Jul 25 2010, 06:37 PM
Vacca Rabite   Yes, I felt I needed the fans. I was told by a lo...   Jul 25 2010, 06:43 PM
bugsy0   Yes, I felt I needed the fans. I was told by a l...   Sep 1 2010, 10:15 AM
realred914   Yes, I felt I needed the fans. I was told by a ...   Sep 1 2010, 10:23 AM
JimN73   Does anyone know how hot it gets in the area above...   Jul 27 2010, 09:43 PM
JimN73   My request for more info got buried in a busy day,...   Jul 29 2010, 04:07 PM
Elliot Cannon   Fans only help when you're sitting idle in tra...   Jul 29 2010, 05:51 PM
tomeric914   Fans only help when you're sitting idle in tr...   Jul 29 2010, 10:24 PM
McMark   I'm not so sure about the fans-restrict-airflo...   Jul 29 2010, 08:11 PM
Vacca Rabite   Well, lots of cars use electric fans on radiators ...   Sep 1 2010, 10:21 AM
bugsy0   Yep - I might just be over-thinking it a bit - eve...   Sep 1 2010, 10:41 AM
bugsy0   realred914 - so what I hear you saying is I can ge...   Sep 1 2010, 11:28 AM
Vacca Rabite   now can I get away w/ a horizontal mount and no f...   Sep 1 2010, 06:51 PM
realred914   realred914 - so what I hear you saying is I can g...   Sep 2 2010, 08:09 AM
bandjoey   Ok. It looks hip to have lots of chrome and stuff...   Sep 2 2010, 02:36 PM
Mark Henry   Ok. It looks hip to have lots of chrome and stuf...   Sep 2 2010, 03:03 PM
brant   finally doing my install today of the atomic deral...   Sep 18 2010, 10:52 AM
tradisrad   Brant, I hope this will help. Let me know if I can...   Sep 18 2010, 01:23 PM
brant   awesome thanks Rob! nice job brant   Sep 18 2010, 01:58 PM
qa1142   Very smart hose routing :first: Any pictures ne...   Sep 18 2010, 04:59 PM
qa1142   Very smart hose routing :first: Any pictures ne...   Sep 18 2010, 05:01 PM
tradisrad   Very smart hose routing :first: Any pictures n...   Sep 18 2010, 05:13 PM
qa1142   I purchased blue hose to do my install with, I lik...   Sep 18 2010, 05:18 PM
tradisrad   The hose is Nylon Braided AN Hose. This hose size ...   Sep 18 2010, 07:59 PM
qa1142   $3.20 a foot http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/...   Sep 18 2010, 08:17 PM
tomeric914   Brant, I PM'd you some pictures. Routing the ...   Sep 18 2010, 09:07 PM
tradisrad   Brant, I PM'd you some pictures. Routing the...   Sep 19 2010, 11:10 AM
tomeric914   That is simple and you wont have any rubbing issu...   Sep 19 2010, 01:48 PM
rdauenhauer   I recently started down this same path and the fir...   Dec 14 2010, 06:18 PM
realred914   I recently started down this same path and the fi...   Dec 15 2010, 12:23 PM
McMark   Great idea! Done! :thumbsup:   Dec 14 2010, 10:22 PM
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