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> Palindrome 914 Build Thread, now on the chassis jig
nathansnathan
post Dec 3 2010, 05:22 PM
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I changed the title of the thread, so it's incognito now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

- Sort of to do with the midengined-ness, my username, and of course the 420 914 thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

The car was very original, but quite trashed when I bought it. It's a 49 state car, purchased in Colorado judging by the sticker that was on the back opposite the badge, Bob Hagestad Dealerhip. I don't have a picture of that unfortunately... Both bumpers had 1975 UCLA parking permit stickers.

It is an appearance group car, tan square weave, late enough to get 2 real tan basket weave seats. Original adriatic blue paint, no repaints. The snowplow early rear valence. It has the original red heater lever pull which I don't see very much. Everything was there without having been hacked/modified (besides the door panels). Unmodified but fairly trashed.

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Chassis # 174932

-Meaning the chassis was built the 17th week of the year 1972 (I think it is the 17th week with a Monday the way they count it), the 4th day of that week, Thursday April 27th, 1972. -I thought it was 4/20 but I must concede it was probably a week later, the chassis production.
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It is odd, though, the dash doesn't match.
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1729556 vs 1749532 which is on the Karmann plate and the trunk.

It would be from just 2 days earlier, but then I was thinking, if it was from another car, it could theoretically be from a 73 or a 74 car, too. It seems like it is original, though, as peple always bodge everything and it was fairly unmolested, the wiring, and hardware of the dash.

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The engine number...
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post Jan 31 2011, 10:49 PM
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Balls deep, indeed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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Thanks for the comments, guys.

I almost got the impression I'd gone past the line of it being scary. The surface rust in the outer long isn't flattering. I sanded a bit of it, quite a lot of red powder, but I think I can save it. I put some rust dissolver phosphoric acid gel on it.

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I welded up the places where I drilled too far and smoothed em out. I had to do some pretty good metal adding as it did get kinda brutal.

I need to get media, I'm thinking glass bead so as not to make it any thinner... I have acquired this.
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I can't wait (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

I got a gun to shoot, I think I'm going to shoot both the primer and the paint with it. My friend said I should get like a $40 gun to shoot primer with and use the good gun only for paint. It's a Sharpe Razor HVLP gravity feed, 1.5mm air nozzle so it's set up to do both. ..
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That is another story, still figuring it out.
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The meat and potatoes of this post was to be about my metal-working conquest. I finally started actually fixing something, instead of just taking things off. Doing the hard stuff first, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

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Oops I drilled through. I was supposed to be fixing like issues on the side of my firewall today, but I'm actually ill, sort of congested in my head (on one side only?)

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Another story is about how I have 3 driver doors and none of them will work for me. The original one, the skin is f'd. I got another one at a junk yard. Have I told this story? It ended up being a late door because I didn't know what to look for. I decided against using it for the various reasons, and I got another door. This kind guy, I think his name was Brett gave me (as well as the lower pdash pad previously mentioned) a perfect driver early door. Now the problem is that the bottom is out by an inch and a half when the top is about right, this at the back. I'm leaning toward removing the skin from the tweaked early door and putting it on my original door frame, though I haven't committed to that.

I've already removed the original door skin, but I'm saving it for part of the hellhole, so I've cut up the late door, too. Sorry if this peeves anyone. I was a bit leery of putting some crap metal home depot alloy steel in there, so ...

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Use of dirt to form a paper template

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A little foreshadowing

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I figured out on the 2nd attempt at this that chemical stripper will leave you with more metal than removing the paint with a wire wheel.

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Alas, it got a lot uglier before I abandoned it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I ended up grinding down that lump on the column part and going right through. It was too 'thin and thick' everywhere, and I decided to o it again. Took me all day and it's still not done.

The template for mk II involved masking tape, and I did the joint of the 2 pieces a bit better.
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A bit more to do. I'm waiting for my girlfriend (no longer ex - I got her back, the one from the dream (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) to send me her drummel tool to more precisely take the welds in the nook down. Hopefully there will be no need for mkIII.

Other happenings, sort of unrelated, I was standing there looking at her (the 914) thinking, I'm gonna have to get the cross support under the passenger seat welded to the inner long (that I've taken out) before I take out the floor pan, when from the sky 2 feet in front of me drops this
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right on to the support with a sort of thud/ chink. I probably should have whacked it, because while I was busy taking this great picture of the adhesive residue on my floorpan (note blurry black widow?) He crawled into my tunnel (hopefully) never to be seen again?
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nathansnathan   Palindrome 914 Build Thread   Dec 3 2010, 05:22 PM
nathansnathan   These are the first pics I saw, back in June on cr...   Dec 3 2010, 05:27 PM
nathansnathan   I sort of wanted to get it running just to see wha...   Dec 3 2010, 05:28 PM
nathansnathan   I've been stalling on updating the blog in hop...   Dec 3 2010, 05:29 PM
nathansnathan   I woke up at 4:30 in the morning to go to the 914 ...   Dec 3 2010, 05:35 PM
nathansnathan   So first things first, like many-a-914, put her up...   Dec 3 2010, 05:37 PM
nathansnathan   Unbelievable how much undercoat was used at the fa...   Dec 3 2010, 05:40 PM
roadster fan   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www...   Dec 4 2010, 03:26 PM
nathansnathan   [quote name='nathansnathan' post='1401717' date='...   Dec 5 2010, 05:19 PM
nathansnathan   I've got one of these bad boys done so far. It...   Dec 3 2010, 05:41 PM
nathansnathan   Ok, so I'm caught up to the blog over at 914cl...   Dec 3 2010, 05:42 PM
McMark   Cool! B) Looking forward to more!   Dec 3 2010, 05:48 PM
SirAndy   Cool! B) Looking forward to more! :ag...   Dec 3 2010, 06:07 PM
nathansnathan   [quote name='McMark' post='1401720' date='Dec 3 2...   Dec 3 2010, 09:31 PM
Mark Henry   From the title I thought you were restoring a 914 ...   Dec 3 2010, 06:53 PM
palmer_md   From the title I thought you were restoring a 914...   Dec 3 2010, 07:42 PM
Mark Henry   From the title I thought you were restoring a 91...   Dec 3 2010, 09:12 PM
nathansnathan   From the title I thought you were restoring a 91...   Dec 3 2010, 09:27 PM
FourBlades   Very nice work! You have done this before? I...   Dec 3 2010, 07:21 PM
nathansnathan   Very nice work! You have done this before? ...   Dec 3 2010, 09:28 PM
SirAndy   Aha! That's more like a real 914 ... :D ...   Dec 3 2010, 09:35 PM
Mark Henry   Aha! That's more like a real 914 ... :D ...   Dec 3 2010, 09:44 PM
SirAndy   Aha! That's more like a real 914 ... :D ...   Dec 3 2010, 09:48 PM
silver74insocal   :wttc: keep on going and for gods sake repaint th...   Dec 3 2010, 09:41 PM
nathansnathan   :wttc: keep on going and for gods sake repaint t...   Dec 5 2010, 05:18 PM
Cairo94507   Kind of reminds me of motorcycle riding: only two ...   Dec 4 2010, 09:05 AM
Eric_Shea   Holy $hit... you've got the gift. that...   Dec 4 2010, 10:05 AM
flippa   :agree: Replace the CMU Block!!!! ...   Dec 5 2010, 09:10 AM
nathansnathan   This pic is from the original eBay photos http://w...   Dec 5 2010, 05:26 PM
Andyrew   Nice work!! Looks like you have quite the ...   Dec 5 2010, 05:42 PM
realred914   I started this, a documentation of my build progr...   Dec 5 2010, 06:44 PM
nathansnathan   Moving slowly along, some more work on the door br...   Dec 14 2010, 08:32 PM
kg6dxn   Nice welding! :first: I wish my skills were ...   Dec 14 2010, 09:56 PM
nathansnathan   I want to keep the thread updated. I went on vaca...   Jan 9 2011, 11:05 AM
silver74insocal   :yikes: you werent kidding about going deep!...   Jan 10 2011, 11:15 PM
porsche_dreamer   I have to say good job! Keep up the :sawzall: ...   Jan 11 2011, 04:43 PM
Root_Werks   :woohoo: Wow! Looks like another 914 will b...   Jan 11 2011, 04:48 PM
Dr Evil   Ya, balls deep. Yikes.   Jan 11 2011, 05:06 PM
nathansnathan   Balls deep, indeed. <_< :miles: Thanks...   Jan 31 2011, 10:49 PM
Zimms   What did you use to cut around the windshield fram...   Jan 31 2011, 11:57 PM
nathansnathan   What did you use to cut around the windshield fra...   Feb 1 2011, 11:08 AM
Zimms   Thanks! Great looking cuts. Sorry to hear ab...   Feb 1 2011, 11:16 AM
Andyrew   Your eye doctor wont do it? They have to drill to...   Feb 1 2011, 11:33 AM
nathansnathan   I'm gonna have to make a firmer point to use g...   Feb 1 2011, 03:09 PM
Andyrew   Did they drill any of the eye? My eye doctor is a ...   Feb 1 2011, 03:35 PM
nathansnathan   I had read about the rust circle that will form in...   Feb 1 2011, 04:07 PM
MZM   I've been thinking about doing my own dentist...   Feb 5 2011, 04:50 PM
FourBlades   Regular glasses will not protect you while grindin...   Feb 1 2011, 09:18 PM
nathansnathan   It's getting a bit cramped in here. I took som...   Feb 5 2011, 02:08 PM
ONTHEGRIND   Miller has sone new Saftey glasses that use neopre...   Feb 5 2011, 03:28 PM
bandjoey   Get a Face Mask. Goggles always fogged up so I en...   Feb 5 2011, 05:56 PM
Hontec   Ha, the last picture is a familiar one.. You'r...   Feb 10 2011, 06:58 PM
nathansnathan   I haven't updated in awhile, but I have been b...   Mar 29 2011, 10:35 PM
396   All I can say is – wow, good luck. What you’re...   Mar 30 2011, 05:43 AM
Andyrew   Looking great!   Mar 30 2011, 09:14 AM
EdArango   Nathan....Great job....I'm in HB and would rea...   Apr 5 2011, 10:56 PM
nathansnathan   About my mess, I've got about a 25' x 25...   Apr 6 2011, 09:00 PM
ripper911   I cant add anything about the build other than ...   Apr 5 2011, 11:52 PM
nathansnathan   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.9...   Dec 10 2011, 11:54 PM
nathansnathan    It's been awhile since I made an update. I c...   May 10 2011, 10:42 PM
dheming   Nice job on the mezzanine! Must be nice to hav...   May 20 2011, 04:55 PM
nathansnathan   Nice job on the mezzanine! Must be nice to ha...   May 20 2011, 09:12 PM
nathansnathan   To update, it was definitely fun, meeting up with ...   May 22 2011, 11:39 PM
nathansnathan   I've finished enhancing my engine stand and th...   May 30 2011, 09:38 AM
Beach914   The Mahles are going to look great Nathan. They de...   May 30 2011, 06:39 PM
saigon71   Nathan: Great work man! I too am attempting ...   May 31 2011, 06:24 AM
nathansnathan   Nathan: Great work man! I too am attempting...   Jun 11 2011, 07:08 PM
nathansnathan   Picking up here, update the thread. I met up with...   Jun 11 2011, 07:31 PM
nathansnathan   It does look rusty, but honest, just a bit of pitt...   Jun 11 2011, 08:15 PM
dheming   Nice score on the parts car. BTW, something like ...   Jun 13 2011, 03:55 PM
nathansnathan   Nice score on the parts car. BTW, something like...   Jun 13 2011, 04:51 PM
nathansnathan   This seems like a good place to talk about how I...   Jul 19 2011, 07:03 PM
kg6dxn   If you have the title you can junk it. They can br...   Jul 19 2011, 07:13 PM
nathansnathan   About a week to go here and I think my landlord wi...   Aug 26 2011, 10:55 PM
nathansnathan   Other progress, I upgraded my air compressor. I...   Aug 26 2011, 11:13 PM
kg6dxn   For future reference... There is a device called ...   Aug 26 2011, 11:38 PM
nathansnathan   For future reference... There is a device called ...   Aug 27 2011, 10:56 AM
nathansnathan   I've got some other 3 phase/ single phase stuf...   Aug 27 2011, 10:57 AM
nathansnathan   The big bolts at the rear are a bear. Oh, 3/4...   Sep 3 2011, 08:21 PM
nathansnathan   Some progress on the parts car. September 1st was ...   Sep 3 2011, 09:16 PM
nathansnathan   Back a step to show there has actually been progre...   Oct 1 2011, 10:48 PM
nathansnathan   I'm pretty excited about the G&R swapmeet....   Oct 19 2011, 10:59 PM
nathansnathan   I finally made the 5th page. The pics are a littl...   Oct 19 2011, 11:04 PM
nathansnathan   To show it before and during adds drama and makes ...   Oct 19 2011, 11:18 PM
SirAndy   :trophy:   Oct 20 2011, 12:41 AM
Rex-n-effect   Your work is looking really good! Have you don...   Oct 20 2011, 09:53 AM
nathansnathan   Your work is looking really good! Have you do...   Oct 20 2011, 12:00 PM
veltror   it's as if I was doing my car again..   Oct 20 2011, 01:30 PM
kg6dxn   :ttiwwp: :poke:   Dec 10 2011, 11:58 PM
nathansnathan   The long is made up of like 15 different pieces. ...   Dec 11 2011, 12:25 AM
nathansnathan   :ttiwwp: :poke: I haven't documented the b...   Dec 11 2011, 12:30 AM
Elliot Cannon   Great work on the car. Good on ya for saving one....   Dec 11 2011, 12:38 AM
nathansnathan   Great work on the car. Good on ya for saving one...   Dec 11 2011, 12:46 AM
kg6dxn   Great work on the car. Good on ya for saving on...   Dec 11 2011, 12:52 AM
FourBlades   You are a real craftsman, this is some of the most...   Dec 11 2011, 06:27 AM
saigon71   Your craftsmanship is awesome! :beer2: Our c...   Dec 11 2011, 07:32 AM
sixnotfour   Spider bite , nasty, get well. Awesome splice wo...   Dec 11 2011, 08:23 AM
BarberDave   :trophy: WOW, What talent !!! ...   Dec 11 2011, 09:00 AM
nathansnathan   Thanks, guys for all the compliments/ encouragemen...   Dec 11 2011, 02:14 PM
SirAndy   The way restoration design does the hell hole repa...   Dec 11 2011, 02:27 PM
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