SOT: The truth about Corvair engines, Nothing but the facts and experience, please |
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SOT: The truth about Corvair engines, Nothing but the facts and experience, please |
Dr Evil |
Feb 19 2011, 05:56 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,036 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There has been lots of interest in the corvair power plant over the years as a possible source of cheap HP for many vehicles. There are used in experimental aviation, dune buggies, buses (such as mine), and in place of many other air cooled VW power plants. They are fairly cheap to buy and build, very easy to build and maintain, and plentiful with readily available parts from several suppliers.
The main divide in the corvair engine line took place in 1965 when the displacement of the engine was moved to 2.7L and was offered in a NA 110HP, NA140HP, turbo 150HP and turbo 180HP. The only differences in the long block between these engines are the nitrided crank found in all but the 110HP, and the heads: 110 had one single barrel on each head, the 140 had 2 with one acting as primary and one as secondary. The turbos had a single barrel blow through setup. The heads are the major limiting factor in the design. They are not built in an intuitive way and rob much hp. The 140 head had bigger valves, but like its 2.0L TIV analog, would drop valve seats due to the limited amount of material between the seats in the head, and the inability of larger seats to shed heat as well as smaller seats. This can, and has been overcome by those who have been rebuilding these heads fro decades by making sure the crush tolerance on the seats are correct, and staking the seats in place. Currently, you can get a set of rebuilt, 140hp larger valved heads, with new hardware and no core for about $1200 from Corvair Ranch in Gettysburg, PA. I bought a set that was rebuilt and had the plenums taken off for tri porting for $1500 shipped off of ebay from Starr Cooke in El Cajon, CA, another well known Corvair entity. Modified with plenum removed for individual runners: The above uses an adapter that allows the placement of Weber triples. My set came with this adapter. Here is a head with a stock plenum, modified with bungs for FI. This is a 140 head as it has two carb bases on it: Standard engine: One of the cool things that many ACVW folks like is that the corvair engine has stock hydraulic lifters on it that use standard lifter, push rod, and rocker parts from Chevy. Easy and cheap to obtain. Another great feature that I like over ACVW is the box design on the case. The top and bottom come off and allow for any maintenance. Swapping rods, bearings, what ever, is easy. |
gandalf_025 |
Feb 20 2011, 11:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,477 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
I've only owned and driven turbo versions. I've always liked them. The turbo setup was "simple" probably because it was a production car and simple screwed up less.
There was no need for a waste gate since the size of the carb and the muffler limited boost. The 215 V8 turbo of the same era had higher compression and needed some sort of Water Injection and Owners forgot to fill the injection fluid bottle and fried motors.. That = not simple enough. Many ways to modify, as stated earlier.. The only issues I ever ran into were the valve seats and the cam gear needing to be bolted on because the gear was aluminum and tended to elongate the keyway otherwise. Never spun off a a fan belt myself though. Last fall I sold a 64 Turbo Engine and Transmission as cores for 250.00. Engine was complete..and it turned over with a wrench on the pulley bolt. It ran when I removed it from the car about 30 years ago. I posted it on Craigslist and only 1 guy came to look at it. Hemming's featured Corvairs at their Concours last fall in Vermont. Here is a picture of a prototype Mechanical Injection Motor they has displayed there. Now that would have been interesting ?? |
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