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> Floor Pans- Rust prevention and Tunnel treatement, advice needed
highways
post Feb 24 2011, 12:30 PM
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Hi all,

I'm working on my floor pans... I have them wire brushed down to bare metal. They are in overall decent shape though there is some rust around the perimeter where they meet the longitudinals. These corners seem innaccesable to all but a small wire brush (toothbrush size). Question is:

1. Should I apply POR 15 Surface Prep, then POR 15 to get in cracks, then Seam Sealer, then maybe another coat of POR 15 over Seam Sealer?

2. Or, should i just do Seam Sealer first over bare metal, partial rust areas around the perimeter? Then follow with POR 15?

Second question... the smaller 'cross tunnel'.. the one where the front seat adjustment bracket mounts, is in poor shape. Rust inside it looks bad... some of the lower edges are gone but it's still largely inaccesable to any tools or painting. I think my options are:

A. Drill some holes in top, blow it out, and spray as much paint in there as I can and call it a day.

B. Cut it out and weld in replacement. But is this part even available? And still how do you paint the bare metal inside after you've welded a new piece in?

Any advice would be appreciated.
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post Mar 3 2011, 08:48 AM
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Perry, you saved me alot of typing. Your proceedure is similar to what I like to do. no single-step process is going to get it done right. one proceedure or product will not cover all conditions or locations.
POR 15 is no good on cleaned metal, it WILL peel. wire wheeled and cleaned metal MUST be etched.
home depot, lowes, Maynards have TSP and Ospho or jasco
sherwin williams, Frazee house paint stores have Ospho, jasco, metal prep (phosphoric acid based)
body shop store, TCP global.com, tri city paint has POR 15 brand metal ready, SEM rust mort, PPG dx 530. I like SEM Rust Mort and Metal Redy because they have a zinc component. SEM is agressive stuff.
ready the instructions carefuly. SEM Rust mort is awesome and powerfull but if layed on thick and left to dry it will be gummy mess.

my advice to anyone trying these proceedures recommended by the pros is try the chemicals on test pieces of metal. there are alot of subtlties in teh timing and technique that we forget to mention or just take for granted because we do it often.

the key is allowing the chemical reaction to happen. the deeper teh rust, the longer you want it to stay wet with the acid. go slow. the little splashes will not feel good on exposed skin of finished surfaces
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highways   Floor Pans- Rust prevention and Tunnel treatement   Feb 24 2011, 12:30 PM
proto31   Just my .02 but I would not use POR 15. It's r...   Feb 24 2011, 12:54 PM
SirAndy   I would not use POR 15 :agree: I'm afraid it...   Feb 24 2011, 05:24 PM
highways   Yeah I know about zero rust, some parts I used it ...   Feb 24 2011, 03:20 PM
MrHyde   Restoration Design makes new cross members.. loo...   Feb 24 2011, 03:44 PM
Rex-n-effect   I just used this stuff in my tunnel. Don't kno...   Feb 24 2011, 03:52 PM
highways   Thanks guys   Feb 24 2011, 04:56 PM
sixaddict   I asked a noted porsche restoration guy about usin...   Feb 24 2011, 05:29 PM
rjames   I have had good luck with Por15, but I think it...   Feb 24 2011, 10:42 PM
GTPatrick   What about using LPS-3 , a spray rust inhibitor/pr...   Feb 24 2011, 10:43 PM
pktzygt   I've had good luck reaching hard corners with ...   Feb 24 2011, 11:17 PM
9146986   My post from '05 What we do in my restoration...   Feb 25 2011, 08:56 AM
proto31   So, what did you decide on?   Mar 3 2011, 01:22 AM
charliew   I have always had good results with using epoxy pr...   Mar 3 2011, 08:33 AM
sean_v8_914   Perry, you saved me alot of typing. Your proceedu...   Mar 3 2011, 08:48 AM
scotty b   I do basically the same as Perry. Get ti to bare m...   Mar 3 2011, 08:51 AM
r_towle   I picked up a gallon of phosphoric acid which seem...   Mar 3 2011, 09:40 AM
rdauenhauer   What is the necessity of washing and rinsing the p...   Mar 3 2011, 12:06 PM
r_towle   What is the necessity of washing and rinsing the ...   Mar 3 2011, 01:02 PM
jsayre914   I used all three steps of the POR15 and I think i...   Mar 3 2011, 12:55 PM
9146986   The water stops the acid. If you are going over i...   Mar 3 2011, 01:25 PM
sean_v8_914   rust thread bump... ...and zinc rich weld thru pr...   May 12 2011, 07:29 AM
Gudhjem   Great info in this thread. I am staring to close ...   May 12 2011, 11:46 AM
FourBlades   I like to use a MAPP torch to carefully heat all t...   May 12 2011, 01:21 PM
ChrisNPDrider   heat all the nooks, crannies, and especially seam...   May 12 2011, 02:05 PM
9146986   A little flash oxidation will help some of the coa...   May 13 2011, 07:45 AM


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