Just another damned project thread, 914-6 3.2 conversion in GT dress-up |
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Just another damned project thread, 914-6 3.2 conversion in GT dress-up |
ConeDodger |
Apr 2 2011, 03:15 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,820 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
First of all, let me say this: let's not turn this into a 4 vs: 6 thread. I like them both and really don't give a damn about your position on this non-issue.
All the legal stuff out of the way, let's talk engine. First of all, this project is well advanced. The engine is already together and the 20 minute cam run in has been done. But let's talk about how we got to that point first... This motor is a 2432 Raby kit. It uses the LE200 heads and stock 2liter cylinders. The stroked crank is 84mm I believe so think of it as a super-stroker. It will run Jenvey throttle bodies and SDS injection. The EFI sensors I have chosen to use will be TPS, CHT, MAP, IAT, O2 in closed loop, and I think that is everything. Injectors are Ford Red Top. This motor requires quite a bit of engine block clearance so as they say, don't try this at home... It took me about three trips down to Original Customs to put the engine together. I used McMark's shop so I could get his free advice which he of course charges me for, and I don't get distracted by wives wondering how much all of this costs. Plus Mark has an engine break-in stand that allows us to fire it out of the car and correct anything that might be wrong without having to pull an already installed motor. Here is a dyno sheet of one of these motors that Jake actually built. I would expect that my result might be within 10% of his. :Insert fingers crossed smiley here: Attached thumbnail(s) |
Jake Raby |
Apr 2 2011, 07:43 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
It doesn't seem to matter what it costs.. Our kit program is slammed until November and we only have one slot left open then for a February 2012 delivery.
To build an engine from scratch like this is a 10K+ expenditure to incklude the kit, induction, exhaust and ancillaries. In turn key form its around 13K hot off my dyno in a crate like this one, ready to run. |
AndyB |
Apr 3 2011, 04:47 AM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
It doesn't seem to matter what it costs.. Our kit program is slammed until November and we only have one slot left open then for a February 2012 delivery. To build an engine from scratch like this is a 10K+ expenditure to incklude the kit, induction, exhaust and ancillaries. In turn key form its around 13K hot off my dyno in a crate like this one, ready to run. So you are saying that a turn key engine just like this is 13K? Thats what I am reading here. Must have missed that one on the website (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Jake Raby |
Apr 3 2011, 04:34 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
It doesn't seem to matter what it costs.. Our kit program is slammed until November and we only have one slot left open then for a February 2012 delivery. To build an engine from scratch like this is a 10K+ expenditure to incklude the kit, induction, exhaust and ancillaries. In turn key form its around 13K hot off my dyno in a crate like this one, ready to run. So you are saying that a turn key engine just like this is 13K? Thats what I am reading here. Must have missed that one on the website (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This combo isn't on the site as an advertised offering. This is a full custom build that I choose to offer to some purchasers that have cars that are properly set up for this type of power. Yes it is expensive and it always will be. |
ConeDodger |
Apr 9 2011, 09:45 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,820 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
It doesn't seem to matter what it costs.. Our kit program is slammed until November and we only have one slot left open then for a February 2012 delivery. To build an engine from scratch like this is a 10K+ expenditure to incklude the kit, induction, exhaust and ancillaries. In turn key form its around 13K hot off my dyno in a crate like this one, ready to run. So you are saying that a turn key engine just like this is 13K? Thats what I am reading here. Must have missed that one on the website (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This combo isn't on the site as an advertised offering. This is a full custom build that I choose to offer to some purchasers that have cars that are properly set up for this type of power. Yes it is expensive and it always will be. I foresee a time when you will have to go through an interview to buy a Raby Kit. There aren't many cases of this but Jake has a hard time tolerating stupidity. By that I mean people who build it and then don't tune it correctly or don't have the proper gauges or don't use the proper oil. If it doesn't run right you should find out why, not keep driving it until you break it. Bad things usually don't get better and when something is this expensive to buy and build it just seems to be common sense to figure out what is wrong and correct it. I guess common sense isn't as common as it once was though... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) My car has Elephant bushings, Tarret bar in front, adjustable Koni's, Camber bushings and sealed monoball in the suspension. All topped off with a meticulous corner balancing. My 901 has been built with a billet intermediate plate and a Guard TB unit. I have an M 3rd and S 4th gear in there and Jake would be a proud papa if I fractured that thing with the torque. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 9 2011, 10:48 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I foresee a time when you will have to go through an interview to buy a Raby Kit. Well shit, there goes MY chances of ever getting a Raby engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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