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| mrgjones |
 May 11 2011, 09:57 AM
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Alright. There are a lot of products on the market that promise to remove rust and prevent it from coming back. From reading the threads it seems the opinions on this forum are as varied as the products themselves. This thread is about making a convincing argument... or a ludicrous allegation, which ever you find appropriate. Horror stories are welcome but please limit yourselves to the chemical rust abatement theme already established. For you slow starters, here is your motivation.
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| mrgjones |
May 12 2011, 08:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-November 09 From: Monterey Member No.: 11,062 Region Association: Northern California |
Just finished reading the other thread. There's a lot of good information there but I gotta say it left me with another question. If the phosphoric acid is converting iron oxide to iron phosphate, what is the advantage of rinsing it out? Unless there's another chemical reaction going on it seems advantageous to have a little residue on the parts (unless it interferes with paint)
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| scotty b |
May 12 2011, 08:58 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mrgjones @ May 12 2011, 06:48 AM)  Just finished reading the other thread. There's a lot of good information there but I gotta say it left me with another question. If the phosphoric acid is converting iron oxide to iron phosphate, what is the advantage of rinsing it out? Unless there's another chemical reaction going on it seems advantageous to have a little residue on the parts (unless it interferes with paint) What is being done with the wash, is there is remaining phosphoric acid, that has not made the conversion. You are washing that off so it doesn't continue to sit on the metal and A: eat away at the metal over time and B: cause issues with the paint going on top of it. Best removal = blasting Best "converter " = phosphoric acid Best encapsulator = B.S...... hocus pocus it's all bogus |
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