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> WhO's THE BEST, rust remover/ encapsulator
mrgjones
post May 11 2011, 09:57 AM
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Alright. There are a lot of products on the market that promise to remove rust and prevent it from coming back. From reading the threads it seems the opinions on this forum are as varied as the products themselves. This thread is about making a convincing argument... or a ludicrous allegation, which ever you find appropriate. Horror stories are welcome but please limit yourselves to the chemical rust abatement theme already established. For you slow starters, here is your motivation.

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Actuallly, if you do it long enough, the black turns to slime that can be brushed off with a wire brush. I like the copper bristle brushes as they seem just about right. You need a lot more time with that sponge or you need to fill the drain hole, fill it with solution and float the positive electrode over that hell hole on a foam block.
With the big tanks, foam floats can float the positive anode over the part. Was able to clean my 48 inch mower deck that way by moving the float. Took about a week.

When you are done, the metal is bare and gray, and you can actually see the rust pits are conical. It's those conical pits that prevent sandblasted sand from getting all the way in to the root of the rust cell.

Want toxic? Add zinc to the mix. The factory used a gray primer that contained zinc and it takes a good while to get it softened up and off the parts.

The stainless holds up under the current and I have yet to eat much off of one. The lye eats the paint at a mix ratio of 1 Tbs per gallon.

And to make it go faster, I use a high power prototype electrosurgical generator.

Per the baking soda, rust removal slowed to a trickle.

Tried the spoge thing for years but it usually boils dry pretty quickly. Even tried a fish tank pump and a stainless tube as a spray device. Pumped the conductive solution out of a bucket, and into a rubber tube with a stainless tube at the end. Clipped positive to the tube, negative to the car and sprayed at the side of a car. Solution trickled down the car and back into the bucket. Didn't seem to work at all.

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mrgjones   WhO's THE BEST   May 11 2011, 09:57 AM
sww914   Rust Mort.   May 11 2011, 10:12 AM
mrgjones   Rust Mort. Rust Mort. I've never heard of it...   May 11 2011, 10:30 AM
PeeGreen 914   I believe Ospho is one of the best out there. Amaz...   May 11 2011, 10:14 AM
mrgjones   I believe Ospho is one of the best out there. Ama...   May 11 2011, 10:22 AM
Bartlett 914   Rust Bullet....NOT   May 11 2011, 10:22 AM
mrgjones   Rust Bullet....NOT Rust bullet has a pretty con...   May 11 2011, 10:24 AM
Bartlett 914   Rust Bullet....NOT Rust bullet has a pretty co...   May 11 2011, 02:06 PM
PeeGreen 914   Rust mort is good but you have to rinse it well. T...   May 11 2011, 10:42 AM
ArtechnikA   For light rust, tin snips. For heavy rust, plasma ...   May 11 2011, 11:29 AM
bigkensteele   You think we have rust problems? (We do...) But t...   May 11 2011, 08:33 PM
underthetire   Loctite Extend. Been using it for years. But i agr...   May 11 2011, 11:37 AM
dlestep   ...I took my body down to metal and treated it wit...   May 11 2011, 12:23 PM
ArtechnikA   I trust rust converter, like I trust the curing p...   May 11 2011, 12:41 PM
enderw88   I used Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on the steel fra...   May 11 2011, 02:39 PM
Ductech   I used Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on the steel fr...   May 11 2011, 03:49 PM
enderw88   I used Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on the steel f...   May 11 2011, 06:39 PM
Madswede   I wonder if anyone has done a large-scale electrol...   May 11 2011, 06:16 PM
mrgjones   I wonder if anyone has done a large-scale electro...   May 11 2011, 07:36 PM
silver74insocal   anyone have experience with naval jelly? :popcorn:   May 11 2011, 06:26 PM
sean_v8_914   "WhO's THE BEST, rust remover/ encapsulat...   May 11 2011, 09:26 PM
ewdysar   "WhO's THE BEST, rust remover/ encapsula...   May 12 2011, 01:40 AM
mrgjones   I've been kind of eying the por 15 products bu...   May 11 2011, 09:58 PM
avidfanjpl   Silver in Socal Stay away forever from Naval Jell...   May 12 2011, 01:17 AM
sean_v8_914   yup. I bumped it. Perry gives a good write up   May 12 2011, 07:31 AM
mrgjones   Just finished reading the other thread. There...   May 12 2011, 08:48 AM
scotty b   Just finished reading the other thread. There...   May 12 2011, 08:58 AM
kwales   I think the electrolytic process is the way to go....   May 12 2011, 11:35 AM
Madswede   Per the hydrogen embrittlement concerns, do your ...   May 12 2011, 12:39 PM
ArtechnikA   OK as long as we're driving down this path - w...   May 12 2011, 12:46 PM
zymurgist   I've read good things about electrolysis on ol...   May 12 2011, 01:14 PM
kwales   When I went to get my trunk done at American Metal...   May 12 2011, 05:29 PM
mrgjones   I've done electroless nickel plating on a l...   May 12 2011, 06:48 PM
Madswede   As a chemical engineer kinda looking to branch out...   May 13 2011, 12:55 AM
dlestep   ...too late now, buddy...I purchased the property,...   May 13 2011, 10:03 AM
dlestep   ...too late now, buddy...I purchased the property...   May 14 2011, 07:29 AM
kwales   One other thing with the electrolysis process is t...   May 14 2011, 12:47 PM
mrgjones   This has got me thinking how I can build a giant t...   May 14 2011, 01:26 PM
kwales   On the first try, I rusted a positive electrode st...   May 14 2011, 04:52 PM
mrgjones   On the first try, I rusted a positive electrode s...   May 18 2011, 09:25 AM
mrgjones   I've been using rebar welded into a grid for ...   May 18 2011, 09:31 AM
rohar   There's a couple of sponges, a 2" steel s...   May 17 2011, 08:07 PM
rohar   Ok, so I've had it running on 5 amps for about...   May 17 2011, 09:18 PM
sean_v8_914   this thread has taken a very interesting turn. roh...   May 18 2011, 07:50 AM
rohar   I took picks, I'll have them posted shortly. ...   May 18 2011, 08:42 AM
sean_v8_914   maybe a pneumatic scaling gun would help   May 18 2011, 08:59 AM
rohar   It's not the crud, there's a bit of a curv...   May 18 2011, 09:13 AM
rohar   Before, I've seen much worse: http://www.914w...   May 18 2011, 09:41 AM
rohar   I let it cook for 2 hours last time, that pulled a...   May 18 2011, 11:08 AM
rohar   Alright, I couldn't wait. I pulled everything...   May 18 2011, 11:44 AM
dlestep   ...I am really liking this...if you could be so ki...   May 18 2011, 11:51 AM
rohar   More pics to follow, putting it on for another coo...   May 18 2011, 12:18 PM
rohar   After cooking about 4 total hours. I have maybe 1...   May 18 2011, 12:56 PM
kwales   Actuallly, if you do it long enough, the black tur...   May 18 2011, 08:43 PM
rohar   I'm in good shape. I went with a bigger anode...   May 18 2011, 08:57 PM


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