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Bartlett 914
post Jul 9 2011, 09:47 PM
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I am driving from Chicago to Reno today. I did 22 hours in the seat and I have 700 miles to go!

I am having some cooling issues. I feel I am running hotter than I used to. I did have a lean running condition and I think I am out of the woods on this one. I installed an AFM meter. I had to boost the fuel pressure to get to 13.9 to 14.4.

The other thing I did was I used Brad Penn 20 W 50 oil. I was running Royal Purple 10 w 40. I used the Brad Penn because it was available and this oil is supposed to be the oil to use (but maybe not the viscosity) Could this be causing a heating problem? I think an external oil cooler may be in my future. FWIW, I was near the red in the early morning cool hours pushing 70. Once I got to west Nebraska and Wyoming, the heat became a real issue.

I plan on Being in Reno for more than a week, anyone want to connect up. drop a pm. I would love to hear form anyone here
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r_towle
post Jul 12 2011, 02:39 PM
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how is your timing? might be off after a long run and may contribute to your hot running conditions.
Consider also, remove the plastic tray under the engine lid...might give you back a few degrees.

I drove with my decklid open one hot summer day coming back from PA through NYC traffic....that did the trick....just a bit more air was all it needed.

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post Jul 12 2011, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 12 2011, 03:39 PM) *

how is your timing? might be off after a long run and may contribute to your hot running conditions.
Consider also, remove the plastic tray under the engine lid...might give you back a few degrees.

I drove with my decklid open one hot summer day coming back from PA through NYC traffic....that did the trick....just a bit more air was all it needed.

RIch

I took out the rain tray. This made a big enough difference to get me here.

I will re check my timing.

I got some 10 w 30 Royal Purple. I will change it out tomorrow.

I thought the altitude would make me rich also. Speaking with my customer who is a big bike fan, he said the altitude here also made him lean and had to richen up. He also said when he would go to Oregon he needed to lean out. His thoughts were the humidity was the difference.

All in all, I still have time. I will be here another week. I want to try one thing at a time. In the morning I will disconnect the air temperature sensor. In the evening I will change the oil. Still need a vacuum gauge.
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post Jul 12 2011, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Jul 12 2011, 06:21 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 12 2011, 03:39 PM) *

how is your timing? might be off after a long run and may contribute to your hot running conditions.
Consider also, remove the plastic tray under the engine lid...might give you back a few degrees.

I drove with my decklid open one hot summer day coming back from PA through NYC traffic....that did the trick....just a bit more air was all it needed.

RIch

I took out the rain tray. This made a big enough difference to get me here.

I will re check my timing.

I got some 10 w 30 Royal Purple. I will change it out tomorrow.

I thought the altitude would make me rich also. Speaking with my customer who is a big bike fan, he said the altitude here also made him lean and had to richen up. He also said when he would go to Oregon he needed to lean out. His thoughts were the humidity was the difference.

All in all, I still have time. I will be here another week. I want to try one thing at a time. In the morning I will disconnect the air temperature sensor. In the evening I will change the oil. Still need a vacuum gauge.


10w30 is WAY too thin. WAY. 20w50's the proper viscosity for your engine and the ambient temps.

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post Jul 12 2011, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 12 2011, 09:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Jul 12 2011, 06:21 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 12 2011, 03:39 PM) *

how is your timing? might be off after a long run and may contribute to your hot running conditions.
Consider also, remove the plastic tray under the engine lid...might give you back a few degrees.

I drove with my decklid open one hot summer day coming back from PA through NYC traffic....that did the trick....just a bit more air was all it needed.

RIch

I took out the rain tray. This made a big enough difference to get me here.

I will re check my timing.

I got some 10 w 30 Royal Purple. I will change it out tomorrow.

I thought the altitude would make me rich also. Speaking with my customer who is a big bike fan, he said the altitude here also made him lean and had to richen up. He also said when he would go to Oregon he needed to lean out. His thoughts were the humidity was the difference.

All in all, I still have time. I will be here another week. I want to try one thing at a time. In the morning I will disconnect the air temperature sensor. In the evening I will change the oil. Still need a vacuum gauge.


10w30 is WAY too thin. WAY. 20w50's the proper viscosity for your engine and the ambient temps.

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Damn! Now I am not so sure what to do. For sure, my car runs hotter than it used to. I put a lot of miles on this car this year, 5K before May and I never ran so hot. Today I did some errands and the gauge went somewhat high pretty early. The "P" in temp was covered. This is not too hot! but it got there a little too fast for a 15 minute run in somewhat cool air temperatures. I have made component changes since May. I installed the correct distributor and the correct injectors. The rest is the same. Both changes made the car run nicer. This is why I was thinking the problem is the oil. That is the biggest and newest change. I never ran the brad penn 50W oil before. Maybe I will take the 30W oil back for 40W.
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Bartlett 914   Oil viscosity and engine heating   Jul 9 2011, 09:47 PM
underthetire   I think your a little on the lean side still. I sh...   Jul 9 2011, 09:55 PM
Bartlett 914   I think your a little on the lean side still. I s...   Jul 9 2011, 10:04 PM
914Mels   I think your a little on the lean side still. I ...   Jul 9 2011, 10:29 PM
Bartlett 914   [quote name='Bartlett 914' post='1506903' date='J...   Jul 9 2011, 10:38 PM
underthetire   You really got problems if your fuel pressure is m...   Jul 10 2011, 12:30 PM
914Mels   You really got problems if your fuel pressure is ...   Jul 10 2011, 01:23 PM
Joe Owensby   I would love to see if the temps came back down a ...   Jul 10 2011, 03:50 PM
Jake Raby   Sounds lean... Brad Penn dies typically run hotter...   Jul 10 2011, 04:10 PM
Bleyseng   Does the engine ping at all? what is the engine ti...   Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM
Bartlett 914   Hi All. Well I made here. Damn is it hot here...   Jul 10 2011, 09:01 PM
Don M   check with EBS in Sparks.   Jul 11 2011, 07:13 AM
brant   royal purple oil is a synthetic and does have good...   Jul 11 2011, 11:51 AM
Bartlett 914   royal purple oil is a synthetic and does have goo...   Jul 11 2011, 07:43 PM
Dave_Darling   Who (or What)is EBS in Sparks? Engine Builder...   Jul 12 2011, 11:17 AM
ArtechnikA   ... Sparks, NV. Evidently a suburb of Reno. ...   Jul 12 2011, 12:11 PM
Vacca Rabite   Going up in elevation would make you richer. You w...   Jul 12 2011, 03:53 AM
rick 918-S   I was thinking Vaccum leak. Could be heat related ...   Jul 12 2011, 07:06 AM
r_towle   how is your timing? might be off after a long run ...   Jul 12 2011, 02:39 PM
Bartlett 914   how is your timing? might be off after a long run...   Jul 12 2011, 07:21 PM
Cap'n Krusty   how is your timing? might be off after a long ru...   Jul 12 2011, 08:12 PM
Bartlett 914   [quote name='Bartlett 914' post='1508389' date='J...   Jul 12 2011, 09:09 PM
messix   do you have stock heat exchangers? are the heat du...   Jul 12 2011, 07:46 PM
Bartlett 914   do you have stock heat exchangers? are the heat d...   Jul 12 2011, 07:52 PM
Jake Raby   Cap'n I am glad to see you post that.. Perhaps...   Jul 12 2011, 08:31 PM
r_towle   I agree, I run 20w50 in the summer and 10w 30 in t...   Jul 12 2011, 08:39 PM
r_towle   get 20w50 oil... The temp gauge you are reading is...   Jul 12 2011, 09:12 PM
Bartlett 914   get 20w50 oil... The temp gauge you are reading i...   Jul 12 2011, 09:16 PM
r_towle   oh, I thought you said you had 10w30 in there now....   Jul 12 2011, 09:28 PM
Bleyseng   Sounds like changing the dizzy is your problem. Re...   Jul 13 2011, 08:00 AM
396   Good luck with your temp concerns.. and congrats o...   Jul 13 2011, 08:19 AM
Bartlett 914   Thanks for all the replies. The input was helpful....   Jul 26 2011, 11:47 AM
Jake Raby   Get a real gauge with incremental values. No one k...   Jul 26 2011, 06:11 PM


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