Dragon hill climb,, North Carolina Options

[Randal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGkhzEwLuw

Now here is one for the folks back East.

To be honest driving that one at 9 tenths would be hairy.

The guy in the Porsche had two wheels off at one point, but saved it. Also think he won.

Counted 5 offs in the results.

[dlestep]

...you may want to compare it to this.

http://youtu.be/Gu2SCBNlrLo

Even though one notices that the driver is sawing at the wheel, take note that
the center of the hood is kept centered to the road...as in both videos
(powerful rear engine and light front-end)

[stewteral]

...you may want to compare it to this.

http://youtu.be/Gu2SCBNlrLo

Even though one notices that the driver is sawing at the wheel, take note that
the center of the hood is kept centered to the road...as in both videos
(powerful rear engine and light front-end)

Dave.

This video further makes my point about sawing the wheel: it is RALLY car steering style when the driver is continually trying to feel the grip level. When off pavement the car is always loose and sliding, thus grip is always changing. However, on pavement, every shake of the wheel CHANGES the "chassis set" in the corner and induces slip-angles (breaking loose). The goal is to be as smooth as possible so one can reach the highest corning speed BEFORE the car starts to slide.

No driving instructor in the racing schools I've taken have EVER proposed anything but SMOOTH steering inputs. On pavement, SMOOTH is FAST.

Terry

[dlestep]

...you may want to compare it to this.

http://youtu.be/Gu2SCBNlrLo

Even though one notices that the driver is sawing at the wheel, take note that
the center of the hood is kept centered to the road...as in both videos
(powerful rear engine and light front-end)

Dave.

This video further makes my point about sawing the wheel: it is RALLY car steering style when the driver is continually trying to feel the grip level. When off pavement the car is always loose and sliding, thus grip is always changing. However, on pavement, every shake of the wheel CHANGES the "chassis set" in the corner and induces slip-angles (breaking loose). The goal is to be as smooth as possible so one can reach the highest corning speed BEFORE the car starts to slide.

No driving instructor in the racing schools I've taken have EVER proposed anything but SMOOTH steering inputs. On pavement, SMOOTH is FAST.

Terry

yes, but have you ever experienced the pendulum of early 911 throttle-lift over-steer around a corner? You'd be all assholes and elbows trying to keep it off the guard rail and the embankment too. Keepin' it smooth, late apex, sounds too PCA DE to me...
the 914 suffers less...as shown here : http://youtu.be/4xEEhRE09Jw