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rnellums
post Aug 13 2011, 09:26 PM
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This thread is to document the restoration of the newest member of my family. After my 1973 914 2.0L was totaled a month ago I was heartbroken, but out of the ashes(and insurance money) rose Calypso.

She is a 1974 2.0L. It is not fully loaded(no sways, chrome bumpers, or aluminum sills) but is COMPLETELY original. It has a few blemishes that I have found so far, and certainly I will find more as i get to know her better.


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post Aug 24 2011, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 24 2011, 01:22 PM) *

our 88 Westy had a $28k+ sticker price & that stoopid single indicator & minimal gauges, while a competing & better equipped Dodge/Chrysler minivan was $5-10k less!!!!


And on that note Tom...how many 88 Dodge/Chrysler minivans are still on the street...or to be more exact on the street in working order! Worth the extra $? You bet!
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post Aug 26 2011, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(eric9144 @ Aug 24 2011, 01:45 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 24 2011, 01:22 PM) *

our 88 Westy had a $28k+ sticker price & that stoopid single indicator & minimal gauges, while a competing & better equipped Dodge/Chrysler minivan was $5-10k less!!!!


And on that note Tom...how many 88 Dodge/Chrysler minivans are still on the street...or to be more exact on the street in working order! Worth the extra $? You bet!


Actually Eric, there are probably about the same percentage of total production for both on the road today.

But you missed my point relative to the 74> 914s & VW products "cheaping out" on things like that - as it does NOT reflect the quality which they claimed, and their sales slipped so far that they became a minor import player - from being the prominent one int the 1960's when I was a high schooler!

Our 88 Westy now has 209k+ miles, but it's sticker was $5k more than my 85 BMW 325e Coupe sticker price just 3 years later (now with 179k+ mi), and historically has cost me 4x the repair bills than the 325e at the same total mileage level. The BMer was built to quality and it's durability reflected it and IMHO was worth the price, while the Westy was overpriced & under quality wanna be.

For example - out 914s & older VW Busses had Zimmerman disks which could be turned several times before requiring replacement, whereas the Vanagons went to much tinner disks which generally had to be replaced once worn & allowed for little or no opportunity to turn them in a normal wear cycle, and the BMer had disks which could be turned several times. The result was that with every brake job on the Westy we had to replace the disks at $1000+ but the 914 had & BMer does go several brake jobs before disk replacement.

I can say this, because as the original owner of the Westy & BMer, & 2nd owner of the 914 since 12/75, I have the records to show where the costs & quality was & was not, and VW definitely sacrificed quality during the mid-70's to early 90's. Fortunately they recognized their mistakes, and are now back up in quality.

And it's not just me, but Consumer Reports rated VWs the same way vs. other competitors vehicles back then in the 1980's, including on minivans.

Frankly, the main reason we went with the Westy was that it would've been double the cost to have a local van conversion company convert a Chrysler minivan to a Westy-type camper van, which we wanted to use for our family trips. This was the same opinion of my long time VW & Porsche factory trained mechanic in Huntington Beach, who saw a lot more VW products than either you or I.

Today the Westys have a cult following, which distorts their values in the marketplace, and not necessarily in relation to their actual level of quality build.

How else do you explain a restored 23 window `61 VW Bus selling for $217k at Barratt Jackson a few months back!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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rnellums   Calypso Restoration Thread   Aug 13 2011, 09:26 PM
rnellums   more   Aug 13 2011, 09:30 PM
RobW   Not bad... time to take everything apart and put h...   Aug 13 2011, 09:31 PM
RobW   Notice the original strut factory paint on the top...   Aug 13 2011, 09:33 PM
rnellums   Notice the original strut factory paint on the to...   Aug 13 2011, 09:37 PM
rnellums   still more. This morning I put in all new vacuum ...   Aug 13 2011, 09:34 PM
kg6dxn   Build it to drive it! Or... do what ever you w...   Aug 13 2011, 10:21 PM
rnellums   Build it to drive it! Or... do what ever you ...   Aug 13 2011, 10:35 PM
echocanyons   I love that color :wub:   Aug 14 2011, 12:28 AM
Spoke   Nice car. If the engine is revving high, then the...   Aug 14 2011, 03:05 AM
swl   Wow! It is the interior that is blowing me aw...   Aug 14 2011, 05:29 AM
bembry   Wow! It is the interior that is blowing me a...   Aug 14 2011, 08:24 AM
rnellums   Wow! It is the interior that is blowing me ...   Aug 14 2011, 09:53 AM
PBC914   [quote name='bembry' post='1524445' date='Aug 14 ...   Aug 24 2011, 12:52 PM
Tom_T   Beautiful car-I noticed your gauge cluster is fro...   Aug 24 2011, 01:03 PM
ChrisNPDrider   Wow, awesome color/interior/graphic/wheels combo. ...   Aug 14 2011, 11:12 AM
poorsche914   My 2 yr old granddaughter saw the pictures and sai...   Aug 14 2011, 11:24 AM
Haudiosolutions   My 2 yr old granddaughter saw the pictures and sa...   Sep 4 2011, 04:44 PM
rnellums   Wow, awesome color/interior/graphic/wheels combo....   Aug 14 2011, 12:48 PM
SUNAB914   Very pretty car! Very nice find also.   Aug 14 2011, 11:52 AM
jeeperjohn56   You found a nice clean car, good luck on refurbush...   Aug 14 2011, 12:10 PM
JawjaPorsche   For a "Northern" car, it really looks in...   Aug 14 2011, 12:19 PM
rnellums   Very pretty car! Very nice find also. Thanks...   Aug 14 2011, 05:19 PM
rnellums   All new brake flexible lines installed, and ventin...   Aug 14 2011, 09:31 PM
rnellums   A pic of the installed period Cibie headlights   Aug 15 2011, 03:38 PM
rnellums   just two more.   Aug 15 2011, 03:41 PM
eric9144   Wow I just noticed that your VIN and Prod date are...   Aug 15 2011, 04:40 PM
rnellums   Wow I just noticed that your VIN and Prod date ar...   Aug 21 2011, 08:22 PM
THE STIG   I posted this over in your other thread but not ...   Sep 7 2011, 07:42 AM
rnellums   I was looking at a very bad shape 1970 parts car...   Sep 7 2011, 09:45 AM
THE STIG   If you had photos it would be cool to see them...   Sep 7 2011, 11:56 PM
mburkhart   Wow I just noticed that your VIN and Prod date ar...   Aug 24 2011, 02:49 PM
rnellums   Wow I just noticed that your VIN and Prod date a...   Aug 24 2011, 03:52 PM
bandjoey   I've never seen this color. What's the off...   Aug 19 2011, 11:36 PM
SirAndy   98 - Ice Green Metallic Do you have that listed i...   Aug 19 2011, 11:53 PM
Dave_Darling   PB Blaster is one of the better penetrating oils. ...   Aug 21 2011, 08:36 PM
majkos   Young kids! music, music, music Learn your 91...   Aug 21 2011, 08:37 PM
rnellums   Nothing sounds bad Kev, but the engine floats afte...   Aug 22 2011, 05:28 AM
majkos   I really meant about your concern for some music f...   Aug 22 2011, 08:49 PM
Tom_T   Love that Ice Green & Beige interior combo...   Aug 23 2011, 10:52 PM
rnellums   EDIT - I see the dealer did the ole steal the spa...   Aug 24 2011, 03:51 AM
Tom_T   EDIT - I see the dealer did the ole steal the sp...   Aug 24 2011, 12:40 PM
eric9144   :agree: Mine was born same MO/YR and also has bl...   Aug 24 2011, 01:20 PM
rnellums   :agree: Mine was born same MO/YR and also has b...   Aug 24 2011, 02:28 PM
Tom_T   I've seen a few Aug/Sept 73 builds with the si...   Aug 24 2011, 02:22 PM
eric9144   our 88 Westy had a $28k+ sticker price ...   Aug 24 2011, 02:45 PM
Tom_T   our 88 Westy had a $28k+ sticker price ...   Aug 26 2011, 04:23 PM
Tom_T   Okay Ross, it's time to put Calypso in your Av...   Aug 26 2011, 04:30 PM
rnellums   Okay Ross, it's time to put Calypso in your A...   Aug 26 2011, 09:44 PM
Tom_T   Okay Ross, it's time to put Calypso in your ...   Aug 27 2011, 01:17 PM
rnellums   [quote name='rnellums' post='1530472' date='Aug 2...   Aug 27 2011, 05:59 PM
bandjoey   That's both a great new color and also a great...   Aug 27 2011, 06:14 PM
rnellums   I've still got a full set from my old teener, ...   Aug 27 2011, 06:23 PM
rnellums   Just placed an order for 4 new Goodyear eagle GT t...   Sep 3 2011, 08:22 AM
majkos   Good, and while you at the computer, explain ...   Sep 3 2011, 08:29 AM
rnellums   Good, and while you at the computer, explain ...   Sep 3 2011, 10:33 PM
rnellums   New plate arrived yesterday!   Sep 4 2011, 10:57 AM
Tom_T   New plate arrived yesterday! "Tippaca...   Sep 5 2011, 03:53 PM
rnellums   "Tippacanoe & Calypso too!" ....   Sep 5 2011, 04:13 PM
veltror   Tracks 1 2 and 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wa...   Sep 4 2011, 12:41 PM
Tom_T   "Tippacanoe & Tyler too" was the pre...   Sep 5 2011, 04:26 PM
rnellums   I just got a loose offer for 16k. Do I take it?   Sep 6 2011, 08:04 PM
mepstein   I just got a loose offer for 16k. Do I take it? ...   Sep 6 2011, 08:10 PM
SirAndy   I just got a loose offer for 16k. Do I take it? ...   Sep 6 2011, 08:15 PM
rnellums   [quote name='mepstein' post='1535532' date='Sep 6...   Sep 6 2011, 08:21 PM
Tom_T   I called Porsche and told them I had a 98 code, t...   Sep 7 2011, 06:42 PM
nathansnathan   [quote name='rnellums' post='1535556' date='Sep 6...   May 15 2012, 09:14 AM
KELTY360   Take the money and run. But if you do, I'll wa...   Sep 6 2011, 08:25 PM
Tom_T   Take the money and run. But if you do, I'll w...   Sep 7 2011, 06:38 PM
KELTY360   [quote name='KELTY360' post='1535560' date='Sep 6...   Sep 7 2011, 07:19 PM
rnellums   [quote name='KELTY360' post='1535560' date='Sep ...   Sep 7 2011, 07:35 PM
flipb   Wow, just discovered this thread after following t...   Sep 6 2011, 08:27 PM
rnellums   Wow, just discovered this thread after following ...   Sep 7 2011, 06:42 AM
bigkensteele   I don't know. I think that it depends on your...   Sep 6 2011, 08:33 PM
Eric_Shea   Turn it and get a 6 conversion.   Sep 6 2011, 08:35 PM
bandjoey   Double your money in 30 days? Absolutely. Anothe...   Sep 7 2011, 12:47 PM
Jaymann   Take the money!!!!Jason from PA   Sep 7 2011, 01:54 PM
rnellums   The biggest downside would be that I might not mak...   Sep 7 2011, 02:52 PM
JRust   If you don't take it Give me their number. I h...   Sep 7 2011, 07:34 PM
Tom_T   If you don't take it Give me their number. I ...   Sep 8 2011, 04:43 PM
dion9146   I still think you should sell it for $16K, th...   Sep 8 2011, 05:39 AM
rnellums   I will certainly be thinking about that! For ...   Sep 8 2011, 08:00 AM
Tom_T   I will certainly be thinking about that! For...   Sep 8 2011, 04:46 PM
rnellums   Been a while since the last update. MUSR was a bl...   Apr 25 2012, 09:10 AM
rnellums   I then turned my attention to the clutch. The pre...   Apr 25 2012, 09:21 AM
mepstein   The PO of my red car also had a parts car the same...   May 3 2012, 06:02 AM
rnellums   Interesting! I also heard about a car over in ...   May 3 2012, 06:54 AM
mepstein   It's a cloudy day here so the light and camera...   May 3 2012, 07:38 AM
rnellums   True that! Here's another.   May 3 2012, 07:59 AM
rnellums   New used pressure plate (the old one was really wa...   May 17 2012, 01:39 PM
Jamie   I think you will be glad that you've apparentl...   May 17 2012, 07:41 PM
rnellums   Engine ready to go back in!   Jul 15 2012, 09:43 AM
rnellums   I finished Installing the engine along with the ne...   Jul 30 2012, 08:28 AM
rnellums   I ended up putting the original transmission mount...   Jul 30 2012, 08:31 AM
nathansnathan   Your engine looks great. You should get a yellow b...   Jul 30 2012, 06:43 PM
rnellums   Your engine looks great. You should get a yellow ...   Jul 30 2012, 06:48 PM
rnellums   Just put some new fuel injectors in. One old one ...   Aug 3 2012, 03:26 PM
rhodyguy   did you replace the trans mounts? they were prob m...   Aug 4 2012, 07:01 AM
rnellums   did you replace the trans mounts? they were prob ...   Aug 4 2012, 07:34 AM
rnellums   I spent most of the day today detailing the exteri...   Aug 11 2012, 08:03 PM
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