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> Tdc with no viewing ports?
Radmacdaddy
post Oct 10 2011, 12:23 AM
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I'm viewing the great valve adjustment article over at pelican & have my one wheel off the ground to get it just right but I have no viewing ports into my flywheel.

How then can I get the tdc worked out?

I did the straw in the #1 cylinder trick too, put it in & note when it is most pushed out and before it goes back into the chamber... But it still feels like its not just right.

Thought?
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post Oct 10 2011, 07:40 AM
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TDC is not something to worry about when adjusting the valves.
Get the rocker arm in question closed to adjust it.
To do this, look at the other side of the motor and turn the motor until the rocker on the other side (same valve type...) is fully open, which you can see.
Once the valve is completely open, the valve on the opposite side is completely close and ready to be adjusted.

forget what you have read and just think about it for a minute.
You have 8 valves in this motor, and you have four cam lobes on the camshaft.
The camshaft lobes are shared with the same valve type on the opposite side of the motor.
When one valve is open and on the top of the lobe, the other side valve must be closed and on the bottom of the lobe.
Then you can adjust it.
Read the above paragraph as many times as you need to till it makes sense.
You wont need to ask anymore questions about how to adjust valves once it makes sense...it will seem so stupid simple it will make you smile.

For your smoke issue and low power.
Rings have a top and bottom.
Top = facing the head
Bottom= facing the crankshaft.
They are marked with two dots typically so you install them in the correct orientation.
Rings have an angled edge that runs against the cylinder...so it matters ALOT that you installed them properly to ensure you ahve decent compression.

Also, on the rings.
They need to be very free in the piston ring groove.
They need to be able to expand as the piston moves up into the compression stroke.
the ring gap is critical...it needs to be set with enough clearance so you dont bind up that cylinder and break a ring.

If that is all done right, you should see enough power to drive it.
The rings will need to be seated but I doubt you will get a decent seat on those glazed cylinders....so just hope for the best.

I would still suggest that you tune it up, time it properly, and clean up the fuel system, filter change and all to get all the fuel you need.

Also remember the little things.
timing is 1432 looking down on to the distributor, clockwise.
The motor will run with the wires hooked up wrong...but it will run like crap.

Also, what type of fuel system do you have?
Carbs or fuel injection?
Lots of smoke and low power could also be a flooded motor.
It may be a fuel system issue now.


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Radmacdaddy   Tdc with no viewing ports?   Oct 10 2011, 12:23 AM
PancakePorsche   I marked my fan with 180 degree mark painted a dif...   Oct 10 2011, 12:31 AM
vwsamba   TDC is not THAT critical for setting the valves, j...   Oct 10 2011, 02:17 AM
mikea100   I'm viewing the great valve adjustment articl...   Oct 10 2011, 07:27 AM
r_towle   TDC is not something to worry about when adjusting...   Oct 10 2011, 07:40 AM
Radmacdaddy   TDC is not something to worry about when adjustin...   Oct 10 2011, 09:08 AM
r_towle   It not possible to install the distributor 180 deg...   Oct 10 2011, 09:13 AM
Radmacdaddy   I only have carb feeding both sides. Ok, so notc...   Oct 10 2011, 09:19 AM
r_towle   you are at TDC when the Intake valve is just about...   Oct 10 2011, 09:22 AM
Radmacdaddy   Looks like I've been real close to tdc all alo...   Oct 10 2011, 09:29 AM
r_towle   loose is good, loud but safe, tight will make you ...   Oct 10 2011, 09:38 AM
Radmacdaddy   loose is good, loud but safe, tight will make you...   Oct 10 2011, 09:55 AM
Radmacdaddy   So, I have hydraulic valves. Tom Wilson says 2 tur...   Oct 10 2011, 09:46 AM
SirAndy   So, I have hydraulic valves. Tom Wilson says 2 tu...   Oct 10 2011, 11:04 AM
Radmacdaddy   [quote name='Radmacdaddy' post='1552153' date='Oc...   Oct 10 2011, 11:14 AM
wingnut86   Great detail in there guys. Randy - After you get...   Oct 10 2011, 09:49 AM
r_towle   for a rough setup, yes that is right   Oct 10 2011, 09:56 AM
Radmacdaddy   Ok, I'm adjusted. Now the firing. I see in m...   Oct 10 2011, 10:27 AM
Radmacdaddy   r_towle... you've given some REALLY useful inf...   Oct 10 2011, 11:17 AM
messix   Check the spark plug wires, do you have a volt ohm...   Oct 10 2011, 11:33 AM
Radmacdaddy   Check the spark plug wires, do you have a volt oh...   Oct 10 2011, 11:40 AM
wingnut86   Randy, If you want to verify the cable suggestion...   Oct 10 2011, 01:12 PM
r_towle   So, You think you have the valves sorted. What mak...   Oct 10 2011, 01:38 PM
wingnut86   Rad, Are you making headway? Rolling towards Cal...   Oct 10 2011, 09:06 PM
Radmacdaddy   So, thanks to R_towle's great advise I rebuilt...   Oct 11 2011, 11:49 AM
Radmacdaddy   I just flew out to Ariz to buy a vanagon and drive...   Oct 11 2011, 12:00 PM
Radmacdaddy   I just flew out to Ariz to buy a vanagon and drive...   Oct 11 2011, 12:00 PM
URY914   RE: Tdc with no viewing ports?   Oct 11 2011, 12:26 PM
r_towle   so, Can he get it running perfect? Enough to drag ...   Oct 11 2011, 12:42 PM
wingnut86   if not, he can add a NOS bottle and FLY the rest o...   Oct 11 2011, 01:22 PM
wingnut86   RMD, Any update on the repairs? Just wondering s...   Oct 11 2011, 02:55 PM
KELTY360   Did the heavy smoke dissipate?   Oct 11 2011, 07:27 PM
Radmacdaddy   My trip from Phoenix to Show low(where I bought th...   Oct 12 2011, 05:16 AM
wingnut86   Reach out here or on TheSamba and have a set of sp...   Oct 12 2011, 05:41 AM
vsg914   There are several 914 guys in Albuquerque who coul...   Oct 12 2011, 07:35 AM
vsg914   Also, the Bughaus (one of the largest internet vw ...   Oct 12 2011, 07:37 AM
Radmacdaddy   New Carb pics... just installed, going for a test...   Oct 12 2011, 11:08 AM
vsg914   Why the rtv?   Oct 12 2011, 11:49 AM
r_towle   Randy, Go this way home.... Check it out... http:...   Oct 12 2011, 01:35 PM
wingnut86   He's out of Duct Tape... <grin>   Oct 12 2011, 01:36 PM
Radmacdaddy   What's rtv? I did one hell of a repair on the...   Oct 12 2011, 05:49 PM
Dave_Darling   What's rtv? Room Temperature Vulcanizing sil...   Oct 12 2011, 07:02 PM
r_towle   Who lives near albuquerque new Mexico? Randy needs...   Oct 12 2011, 06:58 PM
Radmacdaddy   Made it to NM!!!!! Wahoo!...   Oct 12 2011, 07:09 PM
wingnut86   2.0 rebuild kit will have all the seals you need, ...   Oct 12 2011, 07:50 PM
Radmacdaddy   Well... Based on compression on #3-70lbs, down fro...   Oct 12 2011, 09:25 PM
Radmacdaddy   Posted: Today 12:09 am Post subject: r_towle...   Oct 13 2011, 11:13 PM
jcd914   You're not likely to have good compression on ...   Oct 14 2011, 01:19 AM
wingnut86   Randy, If you can run it in the car for an hour o...   Oct 14 2011, 05:48 AM
Radmacdaddy   So, I spent two full days rebuilding the engine un...   Oct 15 2011, 06:30 PM
wingnut86   Randy, You should volunteer to do the next valve ...   Oct 15 2011, 07:50 PM
Radmacdaddy   Wouldn't you know... I'm driving in OK and...   Oct 15 2011, 11:12 PM
messix   You have got to put this all in to a jornal . or w...   Oct 15 2011, 11:45 PM
r_towle   Randy made it to somewhere between Memphis and Nas...   Oct 17 2011, 10:29 AM
wingnut86   Randy, You can have the GC 2.0 case I currently h...   Oct 17 2011, 11:27 AM
Radmacdaddy   As rich mentioned, the case is blown, I have about...   Oct 17 2011, 03:05 PM
Radmacdaddy   crank case damage: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/up...   Oct 17 2011, 06:30 PM
wingnut86   Don't toss the case Randy. They aren't bu...   Oct 17 2011, 07:10 PM
Radmacdaddy   Thanks Dave, a shipping price would be great. I...   Oct 18 2011, 09:07 PM
wingnut86   Good luck Rad man. I'LL have pricing by Monda...   Oct 18 2011, 09:09 PM
Radmacdaddy   Can someone look at this case and tell me what eng...   Oct 19 2011, 06:08 PM
messix   the plenum looks like a 1.8 l-jet, i think it has ...   Oct 19 2011, 06:13 PM
BigDBass   This thread is something else.. :popcorn: Best of ...   Oct 19 2011, 06:30 PM
wingnut86   Randy, See if the seller can check 2 points on th...   Oct 19 2011, 08:07 PM
Dave_Darling   I don't see the 914 dipstick tube. Not sure i...   Oct 19 2011, 09:56 PM


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