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post Oct 14 2011, 05:54 PM
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What can I do about a bouncing tach? When I shift, the needle wildly bounces around until the rpm settles in a gear. Then it either climbs or drops depending on acceleration or decelaration. Any ideas? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Spoke
post Oct 16 2011, 10:20 AM
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There's 2 basic reasons the tach bounces:

1) Points opening and closing causes transients causing bouncing almost anytime the engine is running even a constant RPM. This happens when you have points-issues.

2) The early model tach needles do not have sufficient damping to prevent under shoot and over shoot when the RPM changes. Change the RPM and the needle oscillates back and forth and finally settles to the correct RPM.

See the general step responses below (step being from one RPM level to another).

If the tach is not damped enough, it oscillates.

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To damp the 914 tach, simply connect a 2200uF capacitor across the needle winding as shown below. This will transform the operation of the tach to be like tachs in today's cars which never bounce or oscillate.


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post Oct 16 2011, 10:34 PM
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My dear friend,
you solved a symptom, not the root cause. I'm sure the German engineer that designed the tach knew how to attenuate the bouncing but didn't do so cause there was no need.

The capacitor on the distributor is supposed to smooth that bouncing. If the capacitor is dead, the bouncing will be there.
If you changed the capacitor and the bouncing is still there, I bet the coil has a short between the winding on the high voltage side (almost dead coil).
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914Bryan   Tach Bounce   Oct 14 2011, 05:54 PM
Dave_Darling   If your car still has ignition points, check them ...   Oct 14 2011, 06:22 PM
Valy   What can I do about a bouncing tach? When I shift...   Oct 14 2011, 06:23 PM
914Bryan   I was thinking points too..Side note, I was thinki...   Oct 14 2011, 07:08 PM
Vacca Rabite   If you are running Djet, you need to keep the stoc...   Oct 14 2011, 07:50 PM
avidfanjpl   Get a pertronix for that car. I only keep points a...   Oct 14 2011, 11:47 PM
Valy   Just for reference, this is what your bad points/c...   Oct 15 2011, 02:07 AM
914Bryan   Awesome info guys! Thanks!   Oct 15 2011, 05:42 PM
Tom   Valy, That is some bad switch bounce! The...   Oct 15 2011, 07:40 PM
michael7810   My tach does the same thing. I have a new distrib...   Oct 15 2011, 08:09 PM
mgphoto   My tach does the same thing. I have a new distri...   Oct 17 2011, 10:59 AM
914Bryan   Sooo maybe an Autometer monster tach instead of th...   Oct 15 2011, 08:26 PM
Spoke   There's 2 basic reasons the tach bounces: 1) ...   Oct 16 2011, 10:20 AM
Valy   My dear friend, you solved a symptom, not the...   Oct 16 2011, 10:34 PM
Spoke   My dear friend, you solved a symptom, not th...   Oct 17 2011, 07:02 AM
Valy   [quote name='Valy' post='1556077' date='Oct 17 20...   Oct 18 2011, 07:26 PM
Spoke   The problem is that the bouncing fools the tach t...   Oct 19 2011, 04:40 AM
Vacca Rabite   I don't suppose you could point out the cap th...   Oct 16 2011, 10:41 AM
Bartlett 914   I don't suppose you could point out the cap t...   Oct 16 2011, 02:38 PM
Spoke   My Tach jumps also. I don't remember which c...   Oct 16 2011, 07:05 PM
Spoke   I don't suppose you could point out the cap t...   Oct 16 2011, 07:01 PM
9146986   Sometimes just putting a clean piece of thin cardb...   Oct 17 2011, 10:46 AM
larss   I had about the same symptoms on my tach, the need...   Oct 17 2011, 11:23 AM


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