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post Oct 16 2011, 04:45 PM
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Not arguing a point either way, but i think Sam Hornish and Sarah Fisher both raced oval sprint cars before Indy cars.


Hornish raced Atlantics. He once said he thought sprint cars looked like fun, but despite coming from Ohio he never raced them. Fisher did for sure, but mostly midgets. At one time she held the USAC midget track record at Winchester. She signed with Walker Racing in an underfunded effort, but did manage to exceed expectations and even won a pole at Kentucky. Ed Carpenter came out of sprinters and won a couple of weeks ago driving for Sarah Fisher. Score one for the under dogs!

There have been quite a few Sprint car racers since the 70's to make runs at Indy with noteworthy results, but none that landed big-time rides, at least none who hadn't established themselves in the 60's.

In '73 or '74 outlaw archetype Jan Opperman threw rear stagger on a real back marker that two other drivers failed to get up to speed and stuck it in the show on bump day.
Roger Rager qualified for Indy in the early 80's with a stock-block Chevy that was actually based on an old school bus engine.
Tim Richmond was fast in junk and managed to not kill himself despite destroying a bunch of underfunded cars before going to NASCAR.
Sprint car great Rich Vogler raced at Indy 5 times and had landed a NASCAR Cup ride before he was killed in a USAC sprint car race in 1990 (a race which he was credited with winning because the crash occured while he was leading on the last lap).
Those guys earned respect for that back when just making the show was a really big deal, which it was right up til 1995 when 96 cars showed up for 33 spots before the split in 96.

After the CART/IRL split several great sprint car racers got a shot at Indy including Steve Kinser and Jack Hewitt, along with Super Modified great Joe Gosek. But they were one off, under funded rides. Super Modified driver Davey Hamilton showed promise of breaking through before his big injury. And of course there was midget great Stan Fox, who also got busted up badly. Before the split Billy VukovichIII did pick up a good Indy ride (though not top tier), but was killed in a supermodified before he got a chance to show how good he was on the big stage.

Some of the best racers in the country are sprint car drivers, but unfortunately those cars just don't prepare racers for Indy. Penske, Ganassi, Andretti all know this.
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BMXerror   OT: Dan Whelden Killed in Indycar crash...   Oct 16 2011, 04:45 PM
Gint   I was watching the race. Very sad. It's so m...   Oct 16 2011, 04:58 PM
barada   RIP. :( http://news.yahoo.com/wheldon-dies-mass...   Oct 16 2011, 05:28 PM
my wife hates my car   Very sad..........not a huge fan of IRL, but watch...   Oct 16 2011, 06:07 PM
carr914   I was watching the race. Very sad. It's so ...   Oct 16 2011, 06:31 PM
URY914   IRL needs to ask themselves if this could be avoid...   Oct 16 2011, 06:54 PM
bcheney   IRL needs to ask themselves if this could be avoi...   Oct 17 2011, 04:54 AM
URY914   RE: OT: Dan Whelden Killed in Indycar crash...   Oct 16 2011, 07:28 PM
Dion   I saw the race live,not used to having these pros ...   Oct 16 2011, 08:08 PM
kg6dxn   :( 8HkdSslyW9I?   Oct 16 2011, 08:09 PM
Ferg   I was there today, saw the whole thing happen and ...   Oct 16 2011, 09:53 PM
zymurgist   Very sad. RIP :(   Oct 17 2011, 05:00 AM
mark21742   One of the worst crashes I've seen in a long t...   Oct 17 2011, 05:23 AM
dion9146   RIP Dan Wheldon   Oct 17 2011, 05:28 AM
HAM Inc   I've felt for years that these cars don't ...   Oct 17 2011, 07:17 AM
Randal   I've felt for years that these cars don't...   Oct 17 2011, 09:43 AM
396   RIP   Oct 17 2011, 07:53 AM
Vacca Rabite   RIP The dude had talent. Its a shame that he is ...   Oct 17 2011, 08:40 AM
jeff   IRL needs to ask themselves if this could be avoid...   Oct 17 2011, 09:42 AM
Vacca Rabite   IRL needs to ask themselves if this could be avoi...   Oct 17 2011, 11:10 AM
URY914   CART never ran on banked tracks because of the spe...   Oct 17 2011, 11:42 AM
championgt1   CART never ran on banked tracks because of the sp...   Oct 17 2011, 04:36 PM
boogie_man   CART never ran on banked tracks because of the sp...   Oct 17 2011, 06:08 PM
URY914   CART never ran on banked tracks because of the s...   Oct 17 2011, 07:59 PM
Eric_Shea   Too many cars on the track. Too much money at sta...   Oct 17 2011, 11:43 AM
RFoulds   When I lived in Tampa, I was fortunate to work wit...   Oct 17 2011, 12:17 PM
patrick3000   Very sad RIP   Oct 17 2011, 12:20 PM
Drums66   ......Peace out, Dan :flag1:   Oct 17 2011, 04:09 PM
carr914   IRL needs to ask themselves if this could be avo...   Oct 17 2011, 05:23 PM
carr914   CART never ran on banked tracks because of the sp...   Oct 17 2011, 05:32 PM
HAM Inc   Barber has been a huge success both years it has r...   Oct 17 2011, 06:10 PM
dion9146   Not arguing a point either way, but i think Sam Ho...   Oct 17 2011, 07:29 PM
jeffdon   That was the most horrific crash i have seen in so...   Oct 17 2011, 07:59 PM
Dave_Darling   At Rennsport, i was having my first close look of ...   Oct 17 2011, 08:27 PM
carr914   Not arguing a point either way, but i think Sam H...   Oct 17 2011, 08:45 PM
HAM Inc   Hornish raced Atlantics. He once said he thought...   Oct 17 2011, 08:48 PM
HAM Inc   How on Earth could I forget Tony! Back when ...   Oct 17 2011, 08:56 PM
carr914   I agree that Penske & Ganassi know where to go...   Oct 17 2011, 08:56 PM
6freak   Sad day indeed .....but like i will always say ......   Oct 19 2011, 02:56 PM


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