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> Floor pan rust inside! Found some in my LE, Pull your seat out & check yours
JRust
post Oct 25 2011, 10:09 PM
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Okay I was pulling my interior to install my new dash & backpad. Down by my seat hinge I see some rust around the hinge mount. It was between the sound deadening factory stuff & the mount. It started around the mount & worked it's way across. I had one tiny hole through & some spots if it hadn't been seen would have gone through. Another gift from my car sitting outside at the wrench who screwed me a while back. He just keeps giving & giving (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) .

So I scraped all the sound deadening off on the rear drivers side pan. I treated it with some rust stuff I have. Tonight I scraped off most the front sound deadening. It was great with the exception of a little more around the pedal. I can tell it is just surface rust but it is coming out. I plan to use bedliner to redo the floor. Then I am going to paint it L80E to match my car.

Here are a few pics to check out of the area mostly scraped up. I haven't started on the passenger side but if it has the same issue I will get some before pics.

What have you used to replace the sound deadening (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


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post Oct 27 2011, 10:49 AM
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Are you seeking a replacement that appears to be stock?
At the end of the day, its layers tar paper or roll roofing...
HD has both.

We use a similar product on the 356 cars....its just layered tar paper, glued together...and the final top piece gets put through a roller that has the exact same markings as the original.
That is really the only difference...

AA has taken the time and money to have this product made....so yes, he is the sole source provider of the stock reproduction floor mat products.

I would suggest that you strip and epoxy paint the floors, (por 15 type stuff) and then paint with normal paint afterwards.
Then put on whatever you want.

There are some spray on products out there , Lizard Skin is one, that have ceramic balls as part of the paint...so it has not only a texture, but a concentrated level of "dead air" by having the little ceramic hollow marbles in the mix....they are tiny and feel like sand.

Look around on some of the stereo and audio sites for reviews....seems like good stuff.
The idea with that stuff is spray it on both sides of the floors in a clear mix or black...then paint over it with the proper color.

If you are seeking maximum sound deadening, you need to do some research into what works, and how it works.
Sound is wavelengths...certain materials (aluminum and rubber) block certain frequencies (ala dynomat) and then when you add lizard skin as an additional layer, you block even more frequencies.
You need multiple materials to do the job properly...block the frequencies of the noise, and thicken up the panel to block the vibration that transfers noise as well.

The rear window is the weak spot for sound in our cars...
There was a guy a long time ago that did a double window setup on the back window...not sure if it helped.


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post Oct 27 2011, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Oct 27 2011, 09:49 AM) *
Lizard Skin

Any bed-liner, including "Lizard Skin" is nearly impossible to keep clean and will always look dirty.

With a smooth surface, at least you have the option of cleaning it ...
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post Oct 27 2011, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 27 2011, 01:18 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Oct 27 2011, 09:49 AM) *
Lizard Skin

Any bed-liner, including "Lizard Skin" is nearly impossible to keep clean and will always look dirty.

With a smooth surface, at least you have the option of cleaning it ...
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Do you seriously get in and remove your floor mat tar boards and clean the floor?

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post Oct 27 2011, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Oct 27 2011, 10:22 AM) *
Do you seriously get in and remove your floor mat tar boards and clean the floor?

As a matter of fact, yes, i do clean the floor ON TOP of the tar mats ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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JRust   Floor pan rust inside! Found some in my LE   Oct 25 2011, 10:09 PM
rjames   you can use the dynomat stuff or similar product o...   Oct 25 2011, 11:04 PM
mark21742   I've used and plan to use truck bed liner........   Oct 26 2011, 04:58 AM
rdauenhauer   I used the reproduction tar mats that George offer...   Oct 26 2011, 08:22 AM
JRust   Yeah I have a little bit of surface rust by my ped...   Oct 26 2011, 11:09 AM
SirAndy   What have you used to replace the sound deadening ...   Oct 26 2011, 11:18 AM
ConeDodger   What have you used to replace the sound deadening...   Oct 26 2011, 11:24 AM
JRust   Who has the replacement tar mats? I didn't see...   Oct 26 2011, 01:43 PM
JRust   Please tell me doubleA isn't the only place to...   Oct 27 2011, 10:38 AM
r_towle   Are you seeking a replacement that appears to be s...   Oct 27 2011, 10:49 AM
SirAndy   Lizard Skin Any bed-liner, including "Lizar...   Oct 27 2011, 11:18 AM
r_towle   Lizard Skin Any bed-liner, including "Liza...   Oct 27 2011, 11:22 AM
SirAndy   Do you seriously get in and remove your floor mat ...   Oct 27 2011, 11:23 AM
jsayre914   I would suggest that you strip and epoxy paint th...   Oct 27 2011, 05:28 PM
JRust   I'm going to test some bedliner product tonigh...   Oct 27 2011, 01:00 PM
SirAndy   Getting something shipped in a timely manner can b...   Oct 27 2011, 01:49 PM
JRust   By far the quickest way would be to just clean th...   Oct 27 2011, 03:58 PM
Rand   Once my back recovers from all this scraping. I a...   Oct 27 2011, 04:10 PM
70_914   JC Whitney sells sound deadener. Some of their st...   Oct 27 2011, 01:55 PM
bandjoey   Ditto. HF milti tool cuts the old tar off in 30 m...   Oct 27 2011, 04:19 PM
ewdysar   Hey I just looked under my driver seat... is this...   Oct 27 2011, 05:31 PM
SirAndy   Hey I just looked under my driver seat... is this...   Oct 27 2011, 05:59 PM
ewdysar   Hey I just looked under my driver seat... is thi...   Oct 27 2011, 06:23 PM
dlestep   There are natural harmonics of the 914 and then th...   Oct 28 2011, 09:13 PM
rdauenhauer   EDIT I am using 1/4 inch Solid Rubber sheeting I...   Oct 28 2011, 11:19 PM
dlestep   [quote name='dlestep' post='1563224' date='Oct 28...   Oct 29 2011, 02:28 PM
JRust   Okay I am almost there cleaning up the floor. I al...   Oct 29 2011, 10:01 PM
JRust   Spent a little more time last night. Got the passe...   Nov 2 2011, 12:58 PM
sixaddict   The only way to varify good metal is strip is off ...   Nov 2 2011, 07:35 PM


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