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pcar916
post Dec 29 2011, 07:27 AM
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How many of you are using gear pumps instead of diaphragm types and what filter element (micron) sizes are you using?
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post Jan 15 2012, 10:34 AM
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I didn't give Patrick a call because I already have a lot of this stuff around now that I've been stockpiling over the last year or so. I'll just have to buy a little more hose, some more hose fittings and a few adapters. Then fab up the catch can and fittings for that circuit.

The controller is a pulse-width unit. Simple, reliable, and I don't have to throw off as much heat as a rheostat would. I figured I'd wire it in so that if I get too much cooling (return oil <160F) I can simply slow down the pump speed rather than break open the cooler ducting to blank-off some of it. If I always run the pump at full-bore I'll install a switch and use the controller for something else, like pushing the cockpit heat from my front oil cooler in the winter time. I use a 4 in bilge fan on my front heater system too. Good value that.

I am going to install the pump motor in moving air as it doesn't have it's own fan. Whether that turns out to be in the wheel well or upstream of the cooler fan housing I don't know yet. The specs on the pump read that it's top operating temp should be 150F.

Since the oil going through it will be hotter than that, there will be heat conducted from the pump housing into at least the output bearing and the lower half of the motor. Maybe that's overkill but I'm starting with a clean slate so it's easy to avoid that potential problem.

The reason for the valve was to avoid letting the pump lose it's prime. Even though it's self priming it makes me feel better. As to the extra oil, I thought it would be a potential leakage problem (i.e. output flange seals) if a lot of oil went back into the case.
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pcar916   Transaxle oil cooler pumps   Dec 29 2011, 07:27 AM
stugray   I was a little interested in this as well. When in...   Dec 29 2011, 06:12 PM
Brett W   Gear pumps are light years better than the diaphra...   Dec 29 2011, 08:02 PM
Richard Casto   I think this is an interesting topic as well. You...   Dec 29 2011, 08:24 PM
stewteral   How many of you are using gear pumps instead of d...   Dec 30 2011, 12:22 AM
pcar916   Gosh, I just typed in responses for the last 30 mi...   Dec 30 2011, 05:51 AM
stewteral   Gosh, I just typed in responses for the last 30 m...   Dec 30 2011, 10:37 PM
pcar916   Now in order of the questions. I considered posti...   Dec 31 2011, 06:03 AM
Richard Casto   Continues to be a great thread! Keep posting ...   Dec 31 2011, 09:30 PM
Downunderman   On my 2.7 I am using a sportomatic pump driven off...   Dec 31 2011, 12:12 PM
pcar916   ... and pressure feed the input shaft bearing thr...   Jan 2 2012, 02:38 PM
john rogers   When I added the pump and cooler setup to the race...   Dec 31 2011, 07:22 PM
pcar916   Looks nice. Is the Tilton constant duty? I talke...   Dec 31 2011, 08:27 PM
john rogers   Most of the sprayers I saw installed had one nozzl...   Jan 2 2012, 08:18 PM
pcar916   ... never to spray the oil into the R/P mesh as i...   Jan 3 2012, 07:10 AM
Richard Casto   I always understood the mesh squirter was a bad i...   Jan 3 2012, 07:45 AM
pcar916   I would love to see what it looks like inside a t...   Jan 3 2012, 09:55 AM
Downunderman   The oil feed for the input shaft bearing is throug...   Jan 3 2012, 11:38 AM
john rogers   Well the R&P question pops up again as I suspe...   Jan 3 2012, 06:35 PM
Richard Casto   Well the R&P question pops up again as I susp...   Jan 3 2012, 08:47 PM
pcar916   Now there's some empirical data. John, what wa...   Jan 3 2012, 10:04 PM
john rogers   Good question about the oiling of gear assemblies ...   Jan 4 2012, 11:06 AM
pcar916   Aftermarket (billet) side plates are available for...   Jan 4 2012, 01:03 PM
john rogers   Well, for various HP ratings, Black Forest in San ...   Jan 4 2012, 05:23 PM
pcar916   ... 220 to 300 HP use a cooler and rebuild at the...   Jan 5 2012, 06:29 PM
ottox914   The location of the pump will make a difference. G...   Jan 5 2012, 07:37 PM
pcar916   Gear drive pumps... need a gravity feed- they won...   Jan 5 2012, 08:10 PM
john rogers   You are correct about the "gear" pump an...   Jan 6 2012, 11:41 AM
pcar916   ... We would then filter the trans fluid... How...   Jan 6 2012, 12:49 PM
john rogers   In the pictures I posted there is a bright red fil...   Jan 6 2012, 02:40 PM
pcar916   I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the ...   Jan 14 2012, 11:04 AM
Randal   I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the...   Jan 20 2012, 08:36 PM
pcar916   What is the breakdown of the $308 and do you...   Jan 20 2012, 10:19 PM
stewteral   I thought I'd follow up with a summary of the...   Jan 20 2012, 11:47 PM
pcar916   I MUST. As I put in an earlier post temps on the...   Jan 21 2012, 08:28 AM
john rogers   Did you give Patrick in Phoenix a call although th...   Jan 14 2012, 10:30 PM
pcar916   I didn't give Patrick a call because I already...   Jan 15 2012, 10:34 AM
john rogers   Generally those pumps can handle the gear oil temp...   Jan 15 2012, 08:04 PM
pcar916   ... or you park on a very steep downhill grade al...   Jan 18 2012, 11:29 AM
john rogers   The temp setup Patrick sells uses the speedo hole....   Jan 18 2012, 12:29 PM
Racer Chris   I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in m...   Jan 21 2012, 07:23 AM
stewteral   I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in ...   Jan 21 2012, 12:29 PM
Randal   I'm planning on installing a trans cooler in ...   Jan 21 2012, 12:47 PM
J P Stein   [ It would be hard to believe that the transmiss...   Jan 21 2012, 01:06 PM
Randal   [ It would be hard to believe that the transmis...   Jan 21 2012, 09:19 PM
Racer Chris   So is it the fluid losing capability or the metal...   Jan 21 2012, 10:00 PM
J P Stein   I'm with Chris on this. Porsche's syncro ...   Jan 22 2012, 11:04 AM
john rogers   For the temps question, I found with my trans temp...   Jan 26 2012, 12:04 AM
pcar916   The simplest plumb... in, out, and a vent to the c...   Jan 30 2012, 05:45 PM
pcar916   Finally time for an update. I forced myself off of...   Jul 10 2012, 11:19 AM
pcar916   The engine compartment plumbed and the temperature...   Jul 10 2012, 11:23 AM
396   Thanks for sharing. Great looking set up   Jul 24 2012, 07:47 PM
brant   Chris, my race trans builder switched me over t...   Jul 24 2012, 10:18 PM
pcar916   Thanks, I've done all I can to make sure it st...   Jul 25 2012, 09:21 AM
naro914   I am planning to do something similar. Been taking...   Aug 15 2012, 08:01 AM
pcar916   This geared pump has no trouble at all pumping eve...   Aug 16 2012, 09:54 AM
naro914   Guys, For those using the Tilton pump, how noisy i...   Aug 30 2012, 02:01 PM
pcar916   Ok, since I haven't seen an answer to this noi...   Sep 18 2012, 09:44 AM
moggy   Ok, since I haven't seen an answer to this no...   Sep 18 2012, 05:01 PM
pcar916   I was wondering if the RB Racing pump has the sam...   Sep 18 2012, 05:21 PM
naro914   I hadn't heard that the Tilton had a 2 hour du...   Sep 18 2012, 05:51 PM
pcar916   I hadn't heard that the Tilton had a 2 hour d...   Sep 18 2012, 09:12 PM
pcar916   Double post deleted...   Sep 19 2012, 03:06 PM
brant   I finished my complete install and will be testing...   Sep 18 2012, 08:56 PM
brant   I added pictures of my finished cooler install int...   Sep 19 2012, 06:55 PM
moggy   I added pictures of my finished cooler install in...   Sep 20 2012, 04:55 AM
moggy   I added pictures of my finished cooler install in...   Sep 27 2012, 01:37 PM
brant   things went really well I did not play with differ...   Sep 27 2012, 10:52 PM
moggy   things went really well I did not play with diffe...   Sep 28 2012, 01:38 PM
pcar916   Nice build Brant. Specs on that pump from your pix...   Sep 20 2012, 07:28 AM
moggy   Hey, Ron. What was the part number of the pump you...   Sep 20 2012, 02:45 PM
pcar916   Hey, Ron. What was the part number of the pump yo...   Sep 20 2012, 03:53 PM
mrbubblehead   Hi, great thread. I am gathering the pieces now fo...   Jan 10 2013, 08:52 PM
moggy   Hi, great thread. I am gathering the pieces now f...   Jan 11 2013, 03:33 PM
mrbubblehead   Thank you for the photos. What I am really after a...   Jan 11 2013, 08:10 PM
moggy   Thank you for the photos. What I am really after ...   Jan 12 2013, 10:10 AM
brant   I agree with Moogy. limited slip differentials cre...   Jan 12 2013, 12:16 PM


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