Here is a how to for dent removal Not just filling it up with plastic, Or... When your cracker jack box has a nasty surprise |
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Here is a how to for dent removal Not just filling it up with plastic, Or... When your cracker jack box has a nasty surprise |
rick 918-S |
Mar 1 2012, 10:01 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,785 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Like I've said before. When your working on old cars you have to realize they are like a box of Cracker Jacks. Everyone has a surprise. In most cases it's a cheap nasty surprise. In this case The dent in this panel was not that bad. The problem became complicated but the person that filled it in. Instead of working the damage out the person took a pick hammer and drove about a hundred dents in the panel trying to chase high metal from the top of the panel being driven down. Normally I would just replace a panel that was damaged to this degree. But this is a special car. There is zero rust so I will take the time to bump the panel back into shape. There will still be a finishing glaze used but in a manor appropriate for restoration not amature night at the Drive Inn Autobody Shop.
Here's what I Found when I started stripping off the panel. I used a Tig welding rod so you could see how deep the damage is. Here are only some of the tools I used. I also used a couple wood blocks ground into different contours as a backer for shrinking. I'm sure some of you have never really tried to work a serious dent and wonder how to start. In this case I started with this heavy dolly. I used every combination and angle of this thing to get up into the curve. Don't be afraid. Worse case, you end up cutting the panel off and replacing it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Think out of the box. You can't alway swing a hammer up inside a tight panel. Sometimes you need a fist! Here it is roughed in. I used the above dolly, and a couple other heavy blocks. Just because I call the tools heavy doesn't mean you abuse the panel. Lots of light blows spread out over the area while off hammering on the outside of the panel with help bring things around. Here's the panel after about 3 solid hours of blocking, bumping and shrinking. I rough in the panel and then spray paint it. You can just dust a light coat of spray paint or use dykem if you have it. Then I use my bulleye pick and carefully and slowly work the low spots out as I check the panel with my body file. This photo is after I filed the panel then used a long board sander with a new sheet of 36 grit to check the panel. You can use the straight lines of the sander and check the panel with a light. The side panel was sanded with a 8" DA There are still several pick hammer marks left in the panel from the last guy but I will work them out over the weekend and get them close. Like I said there will still be a fine glazing filler used to define the final shape. I think you'll all appreciate the final product. Attached image(s) |
westtexass2k |
Mar 2 2012, 07:26 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: 31-December 11 From: San Angelo Tx Member No.: 13,954 Region Association: None |
Have you ever used a shrinking disc? I haven't tried one myself a friend of mine used one aon his 55 Chevy project and got great results.
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rick 918-S |
Mar 2 2012, 08:28 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,785 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Have you ever used a shrinking disc? I haven't tried one myself a friend of mine used one aon his 55 Chevy project and got great results. I don't have one. I've been looking at them on ebay but haven't bought one. I think the side of this panel would be a good candidate with all the pick hammer marks the other guy drove into this panel. I'm having to bump them back out then block them level. It takes hours to work some of the waves it creates. So far I haven't found anything that will require the torch and quench method. Just a serious investment of time. The panel hasn't work hardened yet so I'm still ok. |
ruby914 |
Mar 4 2012, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 26-April 09 From: Hawthorne, Ca Member No.: 10,305 Region Association: None |
Have you ever used a shrinking disc? I haven't tried one myself a friend of mine used one aon his 55 Chevy project and got great results. I don't have one. I've been looking at them on ebay but haven't bought one. I think the side of this panel would be a good candidate with all the pick hammer marks the other guy drove into this panel. I'm having to bump them back out then block them level. It takes hours to work some of the waves it creates. So far I haven't found anything that will require the torch and quench method. Just a serious investment of time. The panel hasn't work hardened yet so I'm still ok. Rick, Thank you for sharing. This is just in time for me. It is great to see a masters work. I have every kind of dent and now see just how much work I have ahead of me. You mention work hardening. How would you know if it has work hardened and if it did how would you go about correcting that? |
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