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> Why aren't 914's worth more $$$?
74porsche914
post Mar 10 2012, 08:37 PM
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Just been wondering why 914's aren't worth more moolah. In my opinion there a lot more practical then british sport cars and other sports cars from the period. Is it because there always in the shadow of the 911? Really I'm grateful there affordable or I would not own one!
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:33 AM
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"Few, if any, aspired to a 914. If you lusted for a Porsche, it was a 911 you coveted. Cars that have skyrocketed were the ones people wanted but couldn't afford."

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There is no market for these cars. I would be willing to be that the members of our webpage family make up 95% - maybe even 99% - of the market for these cars. And while there are definitely exceptions, for the most part we are looking for a deal. Everytime a nice car comes up for sale with a larger asking price, there is almost always a discussion pointing out what is wrong with the car and why it is over priced.

A GT with history will always sell fast and for big money. The sixes obviously do better, but personally (like what is quoted above) if given the option between concours 914-6 and a very nice 911 long nose driver, I would absolutely go for the long nose - and I love 914's.

The -4's will always be an also ran to most folks outside of this community.

I dont forsee the average values ever remotely reaching the levels of the 356 or the 911 until we (the 914 community) are willing to pay that kind of money for a car.

Yes, yes - I know - we have seen some cars sell for decent money. But that thought process is backwards. In the 911 and 356 circles the cars have consistantly strong selling prices - the odd balls are not the ones that go for big money, they are the ones that sell for cheap.

Love them for what they are. I sure do. I want a real GT - hopefully someday. I also really want a V8! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)
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post Mar 13 2012, 12:29 AM
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Great discussion!

- I agree with the comment below - I fear we are our own market - and a small one at best - most of us have a need to sell the 914 we have before we can get the something else

I do see fellows who already own a 911 deciding to get a 914 for a father-son project, or as a time-trial car for themselves or a family member - 914's are acknowledged even by 911 guys as one of the best PCA track cars you can field - even if one is less than enamored of the styling - outside of PCA the 914's acceptance is a different matter

in that - the PORSCHE MYSTIQUE is a powerful factor - the Porsche Club is a superb social network that few other car clubs can rival - and fortunately PCA is large enuf to accomodate all kinds of events and diversity of interests

PCA comraderie and events opportunity is the main thing that has kept me from selling my own 914 (tho i've been caught saying i'd trade it in a heartbeat for a Tiptronic Boxster S) - owning anything PORSCHE means we get to be in the best car club there is - (at least for as long as the older 911 & 356 guys keep doing all the club work)


- at general "all-makes" vintage car shows and cruises I find my 914 is an attraction to little kids & to lots of folks who "had one in college"

- y'all will find that a night at a local cruise, or a week at Hot August Nights or other car events, will be filled with many admirers and long conversations about the 914 they once had,

(little kids think our 914s are cute - like toys, like they popped out of a crackerjack or happy meal box)


you'll also be regaled with stories about the one they have in the backyard or barn and are "gonna restore someday", or "put in a six"

or the 914-4 that the brother-in-law spent $10,000 on flares, paint & upholstery, but can't get it to run or pass SMOG or some such problem and it's not registred - - "and would you know anybody who wants to buy it????"

(the answer is "yes, but expect to get back only about 30% of the "investment"") -

(i have luckily gotten back as much as 50% of the cash i've sunk into a "restored car") ( on the other hand i have actually made money on 914/6's and 911's i have bought & parted out instead of fixing - you'd think i'd get the message)

(we can't talk about the contributed labor in the "investment" - tho i often see that as part of the value pitch on cars i look at)

- as the lady of the house points out - "that car is just a hobby - think of it as a trip to London, or a night at the slot machines - the money is gone" -

regarding the VW myth -

I meet lots of young guys at these local cruise events who have one of those non-running basketcase 914s in the backyard, usually inherited by abandonment

- they want to know about finding parts, engines, etc (I am always happy to freely give info on sources & prices, and I often offer to look at their projects and give help & advice, and I tout the benefits of PCA) - and they are generally delighted to learn they can find VW parts to get on the road, and of course make it fast, dreaming of how great a car they are going to have one day by the sweat of their labor and minimal cost -

- I hear only an occasional snide "VW" catcall from some teenager who loves flaming tailpipes low-riders and doesn't even own a car yet, who is nevertheless trying to amuse his entourage

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There is no market for these cars. I would be willing to be that the members of our webpage family make up 95% - maybe even 99% - of the market for these cars. And while there are definitely exceptions, for the most part we are looking for a deal. Everytime a nice car comes up for sale with a larger asking price, there is almost always a discussion pointing out what is wrong with the car and why it is over priced.
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74porsche914   Why aren't 914's worth more $$$?   Mar 10 2012, 08:37 PM
74porsche914   Not planin on selling mine so price really doesn...   Mar 10 2012, 08:39 PM
scotty b   mass produced, poorly maintained, costly to restor...   Mar 10 2012, 08:41 PM
timofly   mass produced, poorly maintained, costly to resto...   Mar 10 2012, 08:51 PM
billh1963   mass produced, poorly maintained, costly to resto...   Mar 10 2012, 09:16 PM
porschefile2010   Interesting question. I think their day will come ...   Mar 10 2012, 08:44 PM
c12croft   Just been wondering why 914's aren't wort...   Mar 10 2012, 09:39 PM
MikeSpraggi   That is a good question. For me, I went into this...   Mar 10 2012, 10:12 PM
struckn   That is a good question. For me, I went into thi...   Mar 10 2012, 10:24 PM
Prospectfarms   I think that if you compair the resale cost diff...   Mar 10 2012, 11:03 PM
MikeSpraggi   That is a good question. For me, I went into th...   Mar 11 2012, 05:36 PM
larryM   same question comes up regularly on the British fo...   Mar 10 2012, 10:16 PM
DBCooper   DISCLOSURE - I own ... a Manx :thumbsup: .   Mar 11 2012, 05:55 PM
ThePaintedMan   2. the 914 cars appeal mostly to a demographic th...   Apr 7 2012, 02:39 PM
rick 918-S   Many of these cars are driver quality. They are ni...   Mar 10 2012, 10:45 PM
unpolire   Well said and I fully agree. Values will climb as...   Mar 11 2012, 11:50 AM
dgw   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks askanc...   Mar 10 2012, 10:45 PM
davesprinkle   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks askan...   Mar 11 2012, 05:33 PM
RickS   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 11 2012, 05:57 PM
damesandhotrods   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 11 2012, 09:49 PM
RobW   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 12 2012, 12:59 AM
rjames   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 12 2012, 10:08 AM
william1764   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks askan...   Apr 6 2012, 12:31 PM
RickS   Perceived as an entry level car, with a bunch of c...   Mar 10 2012, 11:14 PM
carr914   Some Good Points Remember the OP mentioned Britis...   Mar 11 2012, 05:31 AM
Prospectfarms   Hang on. Some of those reasons sounds like "b...   Mar 11 2012, 07:40 AM
rick 918-S   I have never made a dime on a brit car. My experie...   Mar 11 2012, 08:54 AM
Prospectfarms   I have never made a dime on a brit car. My experi...   Mar 11 2012, 09:11 AM
unpolire   I have never made a dime on a brit car. My experi...   Apr 7 2012, 03:09 PM
J P Stein   I concur with the $2500 Miata bit. If I ever ...   Mar 11 2012, 09:29 AM
Germancar-Junkie   IMHO we are living in the "Barrett Jackson...   Mar 11 2012, 09:46 AM
damesandhotrods   The 914 was expensive, it was always saddled with ...   Mar 11 2012, 11:20 AM
porschefile2010   I agree unpolire. There is a little bit of magic w...   Mar 11 2012, 12:06 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Just been wondering why 914's aren't wort...   Mar 11 2012, 07:55 PM
DBCooper   Stock, narrow body chassis' have come under a ...   Mar 12 2012, 05:36 AM
larryM   see this long parallel value thread on the Early S...   Mar 13 2012, 03:01 PM
RobW   The early 70s was an odd time for cars. Even for 9...   Mar 11 2012, 08:04 PM
Pat Garvey   The early 70s was an odd time for cars. Even for ...   Apr 6 2012, 04:59 PM
shuie   Worth more than what? It's all relative.   Mar 11 2012, 08:39 PM
Nozzle   I remember reading some time ago in a Hemmings art...   Mar 12 2012, 07:39 AM
carr914   [quote name='74porsche914' date='Mar ...   Mar 12 2012, 07:49 AM
flippa   The 914 continues to have an odd following. :a...   Mar 12 2012, 08:06 AM
reharvey   These cars have been my hobby for 20 + years. I...   Mar 12 2012, 08:18 AM
mrholland2   Sooo, "they" don't like the 4 cyl 91...   Mar 12 2012, 08:57 AM
billh1963   When I first bought mine car (and subsequent cars)...   Mar 12 2012, 09:08 AM
euro911   It's obvious there's a valid appreciation ...   Mar 12 2012, 11:15 AM
Scott S   "Few, if any, aspired to a 914. If you lusted...   Mar 12 2012, 11:33 AM
larryM   Great discussion! - I agree with the comment...   Mar 13 2012, 12:29 AM
porschefile2010   Nice to see a very clean 74' 1.8 for sale over...   Mar 12 2012, 01:10 PM
mepstein   Many are worth more in parts than trying to restor...   Mar 12 2012, 01:13 PM
carr914   The Next Question ( while somewhat related) is a w...   Mar 12 2012, 05:49 PM
DBCooper   That's a good point. If 914's appreciate ...   Mar 12 2012, 06:28 PM
Scott S   "... at what point would we have "jumped...   Mar 12 2012, 09:59 PM
Woody   I happen to work at one of those dealerships that ...   Mar 13 2012, 06:30 AM
SchwarzHorse   A current market guage: Black original '73 wi...   Mar 13 2012, 08:31 AM
billh1963   A current market guage: Black original '73 w...   Mar 13 2012, 09:34 AM
Sea Dragon 914   I've been driving 914's for almost 30 year...   Mar 13 2012, 09:36 AM
avidfanjpl   There are a lot of very valid points here. I think...   Mar 13 2012, 10:37 AM
billh1963   In the end, the biggest winners will be those who ...   Mar 13 2012, 04:39 PM
struckn   Reality check! ....when you bought yours, if ...   Mar 13 2012, 07:29 PM
larryM   check this op-ed by Martin Swig Collector cars a...   Apr 5 2012, 11:36 AM
poorsche914   I find it interesting that he actually mentioned t...   Apr 5 2012, 11:58 AM
Scott S   And now that we have some money, we’re only too...   Apr 5 2012, 12:26 PM
Dustin   I remember the first time I ever saw one of these ...   Apr 5 2012, 01:09 PM
65tuxedo   When I decided that I wanted a 914, I did not find...   Apr 5 2012, 01:27 PM
mepstein   "If we control 99% of the cars as suggested, ...   Apr 5 2012, 01:35 PM
gothspeed   "If we control 99% of the cars as suggested,...   Apr 5 2012, 04:45 PM
scotty b   "If we control 99% of the cars as suggested,...   Apr 6 2012, 12:07 AM
Laura-4-Lyfe   Summer, 1998 I am 19 and I am bored with my 280z....   Apr 5 2012, 07:44 PM
65tuxedo   The "scheme" wouldn't affect us. It ...   Apr 5 2012, 10:19 PM
larryM   . yep - hope and thrill spring eternal; i migrate...   Apr 5 2012, 11:21 PM
unpolire   yep - hope and thrill spring eternal; i have dr...   Apr 6 2012, 03:58 AM
rwilner   Here's why I bought a 914-- I've always o...   Apr 6 2012, 07:17 AM
carr914   Summer, 1998 I am 19 and I am bored with my 280z...   Apr 6 2012, 09:01 AM
Laura-4-Lyfe   :wttc: AND :ttiwwp: Thanks for the welcome...   Apr 6 2012, 04:02 PM
mepstein   The fours are really a gateway drug to the six...   Apr 6 2012, 05:25 PM
sbsix   Pat, you hit the nail on the head. I first heard t...   Apr 6 2012, 05:37 PM
74porsche914   Wow! Haven't looked at this thread I start...   Apr 6 2012, 06:39 PM
Pat Garvey   I haven't had a rant in a while...... Why are...   Apr 6 2012, 07:08 PM
unpolire   "Why are 914 values lower than they should b...   Apr 6 2012, 10:06 PM
carr914   Some good points Pat, but a argument could be made...   Apr 7 2012, 07:28 AM
unpolire   Some good points Pat, but a argument could be mad...   Apr 7 2012, 11:27 AM
DBCooper   We are not all doctors in formed investment pools:...   Apr 7 2012, 11:52 AM
DBCooper   Pat, why so dour? Can I make an observation? You...   Apr 7 2012, 09:20 AM
J P Stein   The short version is that when they were new....al...   Apr 7 2012, 10:00 AM
carr914   George did you go to the Quaker Steak & Lube? ...   Apr 7 2012, 02:55 PM
Dustin   The shorter the observer the better these cars loo...   Apr 7 2012, 03:19 PM
Niche   As a new 914 owner, I found this thread interestin...   Mar 20 2013, 11:51 AM
rmital   As a new 914 owner, I found this thread interesti...   Mar 20 2013, 12:11 PM
billh1963   As a new 914 owner, I found this thread interesti...   Mar 20 2013, 12:22 PM
jhora   here you go....prices are up for nice ones http:/...   Mar 20 2013, 01:36 PM
green914   I go to a lot of the car shows in the Reno and Car...   Mar 20 2013, 02:31 PM


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