Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Boxster Calipers, got them installed today!
SirAndy
post Feb 27 2012, 01:12 AM
Post #1


Resident German
*************************

Group: Admin
Posts: 41,892
Joined: 21-January 03
From: Oakland, Kalifornia
Member No.: 179
Region Association: Northern California



About time too as my Carrera brake pads were down to the metal.

The idea was simple, get rid of the Carrera Calipers and mount Boxster Calipers all around using the mounting adapters from Rich Johnson.


Of course, nothing ever goes as planned: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

First, i failed to read Rich's instructions that clearly state that you have to use a 20mm 911 SC rear rotor.

Well, i have 24mm Carrera rear rotors. The Boxster Calipers had to be machined (2mm off each of the brake pad pins) and the adapters had to be milled to center the Boxster Calipers over the wider rotors.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

Then, after everything was bolted together, i recalled reading that the hard brake lines may not be long enough.
And sure enough (of course) the front brake lines were about 1" too short. Arrghhh.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

McMark came to the rescue and we made two new lines. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

In the rear, i used banjo fittings on the Calipers (Thanks to Eric Shea for those!) and the rear brakelines were no problem.

Mark and i then bled the brakes. I was still getting some air in the front, but it was already 9pm so we decided to call it a night and i drove it home (40+ miles). The brakes actually felt fine, they seem to work great.
I'll go back to the OC shop next weekend and we'll bleed them again.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)


And now for the pitchers:
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
Aaron Cox
post Mar 20 2012, 08:25 AM
Post #2


Professional Lawn Dart
***************

Group: Retired Admin
Posts: 24,541
Joined: 1-February 03
From: OC
Member No.: 219
Region Association: Southern California



I too have boxsters on my 914...

Question for you peeps...
did you orient the rear calipers so the larger piston was the leading piston? (i.e. LR becomes RR, and RR becomes LR, and you have to flip the bleeders to the top, and the x-over to the bottom).

Or did you just bolt them on, and let the smaller piston lead?

(I see a mix of the above on this thread)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
SirAndy
post Mar 20 2012, 11:27 AM
Post #3


Resident German
*************************

Group: Admin
Posts: 41,892
Joined: 21-January 03
From: Oakland, Kalifornia
Member No.: 179
Region Association: Northern California



QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 20 2012, 07:25 AM) *
Question for you peeps...
did you orient the rear calipers so the larger piston was the leading piston? (i.e. LR becomes RR, and RR becomes LR, and you have to flip the bleeders to the top, and the x-over to the bottom).

Or did you just bolt them on, and let the smaller piston lead?

(I see a mix of the above on this thread)

Just bolted them on and ignored the pistons. Mounted so the bleeders are on top.

I doubt it will make any noticeable difference ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Aaron Cox
post Mar 20 2012, 11:58 AM
Post #4


Professional Lawn Dart
***************

Group: Retired Admin
Posts: 24,541
Joined: 1-February 03
From: OC
Member No.: 219
Region Association: Southern California



QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 20 2012, 10:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 20 2012, 07:25 AM) *
Question for you peeps...
did you orient the rear calipers so the larger piston was the leading piston? (i.e. LR becomes RR, and RR becomes LR, and you have to flip the bleeders to the top, and the x-over to the bottom).

Or did you just bolt them on, and let the smaller piston lead?

(I see a mix of the above on this thread)

I doubt it will make any noticeable difference ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


I would tend to believe that also.. but the fronts use the larger piston as the leading piston (or so i thought?)
did a little digging on the reason for stepped/differential caliper bores. Sounds like bolt them on and go!

Differential bore calipers -- As the surface of the rotor heats up, the clamping force of the pistons has to be increased to avoid brake fade. If the caliper has multiple pistons (or multiple pairs of pistons), the brake rotor surface is initially heated by the pistons pushing against the brake pad at the leading edge of the caliper, making the rotor surface hotter when it rotates back to the pistons closer to the trailing edge of the caliper. Therefore it helps if the pistons closer to the rear edge of the caliper are larger. Differential-bore calipers use smaller pistons up front, larger pistons toward the back
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
SirAndy   Boxster Calipers, got them installed today!   Feb 27 2012, 01:12 AM
SirAndy   RJ Adapters: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads...   Feb 27 2012, 01:12 AM
SirAndy   Test fit in the rear:   Feb 27 2012, 01:13 AM
SirAndy   Sharpie marks for milling the adapters so they wou...   Feb 27 2012, 01:14 AM
SirAndy   Milled down rear adapter mounted:   Feb 27 2012, 01:15 AM
SirAndy   Rear Caliper bolted up:   Feb 27 2012, 01:16 AM
SirAndy   The inner rear pads need to be shaved down a bit a...   Feb 27 2012, 01:17 AM
SirAndy   Fuzzy pic of the retaining pin that i cut down to ...   Feb 27 2012, 01:18 AM
SirAndy   Everything in place. I added some blue loctite to ...   Feb 27 2012, 01:19 AM
SirAndy   One more, rear all installed:   Feb 27 2012, 01:20 AM
SirAndy   The front went on much easier. Here's the adap...   Feb 27 2012, 01:21 AM
SirAndy   Test fitting the front:   Feb 27 2012, 01:22 AM
SirAndy   And final assembly:   Feb 27 2012, 01:22 AM
SirAndy   Time for a shower and some beer! :DRUNK:   Feb 27 2012, 01:22 AM
Cairo94507   Wow that should give you some serious stopping pow...   Feb 27 2012, 08:09 AM
jaxdream   Those look fantastic!!!!!...   Feb 27 2012, 09:46 AM
jsconst   Wow, long day, glad to hear you got it done. Looks...   Feb 27 2012, 10:14 AM
URY914   Nice work. Damn those are big.   Feb 27 2012, 10:16 AM
SirAndy   Nice work. Damn those are big. They are big...   Feb 27 2012, 02:16 PM
pcar916   Lookin' way good!!!!!...   Feb 27 2012, 10:22 AM
wndsrfr   Lookin' way good!!!!!...   Nov 2 2019, 08:03 AM
stuttgart46   Please post your feedback after your road test. I...   Feb 27 2012, 11:42 AM
andys   Andy, Which Boxster caliper did you install. Actu...   Feb 27 2012, 12:10 PM
SirAndy   Which Boxster caliper did you install. Actually, I...   Feb 27 2012, 02:18 PM
andys   Which Boxster caliper did you install. Actually, ...   Feb 27 2012, 02:23 PM
SirAndy   Forgot to ask: What master cylinder diameter are y...   Feb 27 2012, 02:25 PM
ClayPerrine   I have had Boxster calipers on my six for about 3 ...   Feb 27 2012, 12:33 PM
PeeGreen 914   Very cool. 914 that I drove with these on was real...   Feb 27 2012, 02:52 PM
slivel   Finally upgraded my brakes like Andy had done. Wa...   Mar 19 2012, 05:44 PM
Cracker   Andy - Great job and the brakes look great. What, ...   Mar 19 2012, 07:14 PM
slivel   Andy - Great job and the brakes look great. What,...   Mar 19 2012, 08:02 PM
okieflyr   Andy - Great job and the brakes look great. What...   Mar 19 2012, 08:19 PM
Cracker   Okieflyer wrote: "...but I would imagine the ...   Mar 20 2012, 04:23 AM
SirAndy   Andy - Great job and the brakes look great. What,...   Mar 19 2012, 09:26 PM
slivel   Pagid Black - but it's a track only car.   Mar 19 2012, 08:38 PM
campbellcj   Pagid Black - but it's a track only car. FW...   Mar 19 2012, 08:41 PM
r_towle   Is there an emergency brake as part of this soluti...   Mar 19 2012, 09:57 PM
SirAndy   Is there an emergency brake as part of this solut...   Mar 19 2012, 10:14 PM
Philip W.   i have boxster S calipers too. :poke: i would l...   Mar 20 2012, 07:57 AM
okieflyr   i have boxster S calipers too. :poke: i would ...   Mar 20 2012, 02:51 PM
SirAndy   All these "upgrades" add more mass, and ...   Mar 20 2012, 03:49 PM
Aaron Cox   I too have boxsters on my 914... Question for you...   Mar 20 2012, 08:25 AM
SirAndy   Question for you peeps... did you orient the rear ...   Mar 20 2012, 11:27 AM
Aaron Cox   [quote name='Aaron Cox' post='1649704' date='Mar ...   Mar 20 2012, 11:58 AM
SirAndy   Differential bore calipers -- [i]As the surface of...   Mar 20 2012, 12:05 PM
Aaron Cox   [quote name='Aaron Cox' post='1649830' date='Mar ...   Mar 20 2012, 12:08 PM
Steve   I flipped the oil feed lines so they are the same ...   Mar 20 2012, 08:39 AM
Aaron Cox   pretty sure they're lighter than the front M-c...   Mar 20 2012, 03:52 PM
okieflyr   pretty sure they're lighter than the front M-...   Mar 20 2012, 05:11 PM
jim_hoyland   Just after reading the Boxster caliper update thre...   Mar 20 2012, 04:23 PM
Aaron Cox   Just after reading the Boxster caliper update thr...   Mar 20 2012, 04:25 PM
jim_hoyland   Just after reading the Boxster caliper update th...   Mar 20 2012, 04:28 PM
Aaron Cox   [quote name='Aaron Cox' post='1650037' date='Mar ...   Mar 20 2012, 04:32 PM
jim_hoyland   Her ya' go... :) I'm not sure the pic wher...   Mar 20 2012, 04:35 PM
Aaron Cox   Wow, Jim. Those look scary thin at the corners o...   Mar 20 2012, 06:12 PM
SirAndy   Wow, Jim. Those look scary thin at the corners of...   Mar 21 2012, 11:08 AM
seanery   Wow, Jim. Those look scary thin at the corners o...   May 29 2012, 09:54 PM
seanery   It's been 2 months now, Andy. How do you like ...   May 29 2012, 09:53 PM
SirAndy   It's been 2 months now, Andy. How do you like ...   May 30 2012, 01:35 PM
Steve   I love mine!! They work great and they do...   May 30 2012, 06:14 PM
tim_nd   Hey, I'm no engineer by any means, but these m...   May 30 2012, 08:52 PM
jim_hoyland   I have not mounted those adapters. They are in a d...   May 31 2012, 08:13 AM
Luke M   I have the same setup as Andy but I installed the ...   Jul 9 2012, 06:47 AM
CptTripps   So here I go digging up an old thread, and digging...   Aug 30 2013, 01:28 PM
Luke M   I just checked my calipers and this is what I have...   Aug 30 2013, 04:00 PM
CptTripps   I think you may have a set of fronts on the rear.....   Aug 30 2013, 05:15 PM
Luke M   From the Pelican site. http://www.pelicanparts.co...   Aug 30 2013, 05:38 PM
Jeff Hail   From the Pelican site. http://www.pelicanparts.c...   Aug 30 2013, 06:01 PM
amallagh   What happens if you use the 996 part number rear c...   Mar 17 2019, 06:58 PM
Jeff Hail   and pads   Aug 30 2013, 06:10 PM
CptTripps   Hmmm... I've got another set on the way. So I...   Aug 30 2013, 07:08 PM
Ecke Liebhaber   Will the Boxster calipers fit under 15" Fuchs...   May 8 2015, 04:47 AM
SirAndy   Will the Boxster calipers fit under 15" Fuchs...   May 8 2015, 10:23 AM
ClayPerrine   Will the Boxster calipers fit under 15" Fuch...   May 12 2015, 09:12 PM
SirAndy   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2184501' date='May 8 2...   May 13 2015, 10:57 AM
Retroracer   Will the Boxster calipers fit under 15" Fuch...   Mar 17 2019, 07:53 PM
madmax914   Andy, can you pass on Rick Johnson's informati...   May 13 2015, 03:13 PM
GermermanCarGuy   Andy, can you pass on Rick Johnson's informat...   May 13 2015, 03:53 PM
SirAndy   Andy, can you pass on Rick Johnson's informati...   May 13 2015, 05:46 PM
Retroracer   Andy - did you flip the link lines and the bleeder...   Mar 17 2019, 07:51 PM
roblav1   I just put this setup on my car yesterday: - Carr...   Nov 1 2019, 08:01 PM
roblav1   I've got the same setup with Boxster calipers ...   Jun 10 2020, 09:27 AM
RiqueMar   Contributing to this thread revival... I have Ear...   Jun 10 2020, 09:42 AM
RiqueMar   Sorry for the multiple-post, photos for reference....   Jun 10 2020, 11:18 AM
914Toy   I mounted Boxter front calipers, with the "u...   Jun 10 2020, 02:38 PM
vfe95   Hi there, On the way to build a 914GT, 5lugs and 9...   Jan 25 2023, 03:20 PM
mepstein   The Boxster brake setup is early (non S) calipers ...   Jan 25 2023, 03:41 PM
vfe95   Thanks for fast reply mepstein. It's for rear....   Jan 25 2023, 03:53 PM
SirAndy   Thanks for fast reply mepstein. It's for rear...   Jan 25 2023, 04:51 PM
davenorcal   My caliper pins are rubbing on my rotor and I hope...   Apr 18 2023, 11:24 PM
davenorcal   The picture above is a view of the outer side. Th...   Apr 18 2023, 11:27 PM
SirAndy   @davenorcal From my first post in this thread: ...   Apr 19 2023, 12:19 AM
davenorcal   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Apr 20 2023, 12:30 AM
SirAndy   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...   Apr 20 2023, 09:29 AM
burton73   [quote name='davenorcal' post='3072547' date='Apr...   Apr 20 2023, 11:27 AM
davenorcal   @sirandy - Dang, you are so right. I took pics o...   Apr 20 2023, 09:42 PM
ClayPerrine   One of the other things about running Boxster cali...   Apr 21 2023, 11:24 AM
SirAndy   One of the other things about running Boxster cal...   Apr 21 2023, 11:39 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
21 User(s) are reading this topic (21 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th November 2024 - 04:41 PM