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> D-Jet WAAAAY To Rich, or JOES 2012 HERSHEY EMERGENCY THREAD
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post Apr 18 2012, 04:34 PM
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My 2056 w/ D-jet has almost 200 miles on it, i have been tweaking little things here and there. Today I was trying to adjust the TPS. I turned the ignition on and slowly opened the throtle till i heard 20 clicks and then i tightened it down. Got on the freeway and seemed to run a bit better (less bucking) but then i drive 30 min and starts jerking like crazy

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I am loosing at least 1 cylinder under steady cruise and pick it back up on accleration. I get to the end of the freeway and i cant even idle, feels like running on 3 but still has full power. I also hear a knocking sound.

shut it down. put the tps back where it was, pulled the plugs. BLACKer than black. Wipe them off and start it back up. Engine is idling rough and i smell gasoline strong from the exhaust.

I pulled the wire off the head temp sensor and grounded the lead to the negative side of the battery, and I think it helped. I also adjusted the idle screw and the knob on the ecu till it seemed like it smelled less like gasoline.

Here I am, firing on all 3 with full power, engine pulls strong but a lot of misfiring due to rich fuel i believe


what the hell is going on here???




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post Apr 19 2012, 04:24 PM
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Joe, I went back and read your build thread looking for clues. Rwilner asked but you did not answer re: which CHT sender? is it compatible w/ the ECU. Also, the MPS; is it compatible. Does the MPS also ohm out correctly. Did you ever dissconnect the TPS to check driveability? I noticed that your injectors were rebuilt then rebuilt again after setting awhile. These are suspicious to me. Have you rechecked your valve clearances. You didn't clamp the air cleaner down over the fuel return line did you? You also mentioned that it idled great when cold and stalled once warmed. Did you ever correct that? If your MPS, ECU and CHT sender are kosher and working and if your running the 9550 cam; roll your idle controll CC all the way. You'll never get it tuned to idle, otherwise. One more thing; did you verify that the mark on the dist is at the correct position? Hang in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

EDIT: Can you post a pic showing your dist from the top view w or w/o the cap on it.
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 19 2012, 06:24 PM) *

Joe, I went back and read your build thread looking for clues.

Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Rwilner asked but you did not answer re: which CHT sender? is it compatible w/ the ECU. Also, the MPS; is it compatible.

cht sender is correct and mps is correct, all are matched.
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Does the MPS also ohm out correctly.

have no idea how to check that one.
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Did you ever dissconnect the TPS to check driveability?

i did disconnect it and there was very little change at idle, but i did not drive it with the tps disconnected
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I noticed that your injectors were rebuilt then rebuilt again after setting awhile. These are suspicious to me.

the injectors were flow checked and tested for leaks, they were rechecked because someone mentioned they can stick closed if sitting for to long.
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Have you rechecked your valve clearances.

gonna do this tonight
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You didn't clamp the air cleaner down over the fuel return line did you? You also mentioned that it idled great when cold and stalled once warmed. Did you ever correct that?

no, no
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If your MPS, ECU and CHT sender are kosher and working and if your running the 9550 cam; roll your idle controll CC all the way. You'll never get it tuned to idle, otherwise.

dont understand this one, can you explain. roll what (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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One more thing; did you verify that the mark on the dist is at the correct position? Hang in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

EDIT: Can you post a pic showing your dist from the top view w or w/o the cap on it.

dist is correct position, dont forget the car ran like a champ for 2 days. I am hanging on here, i dont have much of a choice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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jsayre914   D-Jet WAAAAY To Rich   Apr 18 2012, 04:34 PM
Jake Raby   Whats the fuel pressure? Remedy this NOW, else th...   Apr 18 2012, 04:40 PM
jsayre914   Whats the fuel pressure? Remedy this NOW, else t...   Apr 18 2012, 04:47 PM
76-914   disconnect the TPS and see what happens   Apr 18 2012, 04:52 PM
jsayre914   disconnect the TPS and see what happens Please...   Apr 18 2012, 04:54 PM
vsg914   Yes on the tps. You need to set it with an ohm met...   Apr 18 2012, 04:56 PM
76-914   disconnect the TPS and see what happens Pleas...   Apr 18 2012, 05:09 PM
914itis   Sounds like my issue when my points went bad last ...   Apr 18 2012, 05:10 PM
jsayre914   Sounds like my issue when my points went bad last...   Apr 18 2012, 05:18 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Not a possibility. Really. No vacuum line at t...   Apr 18 2012, 05:47 PM
jsayre914   Not a possibility. Really. No vacuum line at ...   Apr 18 2012, 05:50 PM
brenz   Adjust the TPS using the procedure on Pelican with...   Apr 18 2012, 08:19 PM
Prospectfarms   :agree: When I smell gasoline, I think "lea...   Apr 18 2012, 08:54 PM
jsayre914   at work <_< Work all day tommorow, wont ge...   Apr 19 2012, 11:27 AM
914itis   Joe I am gonna OSS your stereo, seems like this h...   Apr 19 2012, 11:34 AM
914itis   Joe I am gonna Miss your stereo, seems like this ...   Apr 19 2012, 11:34 AM
McMark   Check the connector/wires at the intake air temp s...   Apr 19 2012, 01:32 PM
jsayre914   I will check everything again tonight. But the mor...   Apr 19 2012, 01:47 PM
vsg914   First I would take another look at everything for ...   Apr 19 2012, 02:01 PM
brant   recheck everything for example... you say the MPS...   Apr 19 2012, 03:01 PM
McMark   :agree: If you checked everything and it's all...   Apr 19 2012, 03:10 PM
76-914   Joe, I went back and read your build thread lookin...   Apr 19 2012, 04:24 PM
jsayre914   Joe, I went back and read your build thread looki...   Apr 19 2012, 05:07 PM
76-914   The 9550 cam makes for a rich idle. I'm runnin...   Apr 19 2012, 05:22 PM
jsayre914   [u]UPDATE Car is up and running. 1) multiple v...   Apr 20 2012, 11:56 AM
jsayre914   :bump: :popcorn:   Apr 20 2012, 03:08 PM
Bleyseng   28 BTDC is the normal setup at 3500rpms. Is the va...   Apr 20 2012, 03:13 PM
jsayre914   28 BTDC is the normal setup at 3500rpms. Is the v...   Apr 20 2012, 03:38 PM
Jake Raby   Something tightened the valves up... That was prob...   Apr 20 2012, 04:07 PM
jsayre914   Something tightened the valves up... That was pro...   Apr 20 2012, 05:01 PM
davesprinkle   Pull off the manifold reference line from the back...   Apr 20 2012, 09:51 PM
underthetire   Pull off the manifold reference line from the bac...   Apr 20 2012, 10:37 PM
Bleyseng   Pull off the manifold reference line from the ba...   Apr 21 2012, 05:33 AM
falconfp2001   WOW, :Qarl: Nice that you got it running again....   Apr 20 2012, 10:35 PM
76-914   :thumbsup: A few days late here, but congrats. I...   Apr 21 2012, 08:14 AM
jsayre914   For those of you that are following my emergency t...   Apr 22 2012, 12:18 PM
brant   you know you need to adjust your valves cold? (ove...   Apr 22 2012, 01:49 PM
jsayre914   you know you need to adjust your valves cold? (ov...   Apr 22 2012, 01:57 PM
Dave_Darling   Compare the adjuster and the position of the valve...   Apr 22 2012, 01:57 PM
76-914   :agree: Sounds like a dropped valve seat :barf: ...   Apr 23 2012, 08:11 AM
jsayre914   :agree: Sounds like a dropped valve seat :barf:...   Apr 23 2012, 09:31 AM
76-914   I asked because Chromoloy are noisy as hell when s...   Apr 23 2012, 09:58 AM
jsayre914   I asked because Chromoloy are noisy as hell when ...   Apr 23 2012, 01:12 PM
Dave_Darling   Like I said, look at where the valve tip (the part...   Apr 23 2012, 06:49 PM
jsayre914   AND THE ANSWER IS ...................................   Apr 25 2012, 12:57 PM
Jake Raby   AND THE ANSWER IS ..................................   Apr 25 2012, 01:46 PM
jsayre914   So, as you can see in the pic, the head of the pus...   Apr 25 2012, 01:40 PM
r_towle   Joe, What type of lifter is in there, and I stron...   Apr 25 2012, 03:48 PM
76-914   Joe, I'm too lazy to re-read your build thread...   Apr 25 2012, 05:09 PM
Jake Raby   So.. Here we go. Before I jump into this I want to...   Apr 25 2012, 05:26 PM
r_towle   Jake, I do think you may be over reacting. It was ...   Apr 25 2012, 05:36 PM
vsg914   So, I won't be able to buy another cam from yo...   Apr 25 2012, 05:42 PM
914itis   I don't see where joe blamed anyone here. Am I...   Apr 25 2012, 05:46 PM
Vacca Rabite   No, you aren't. The guy who built Joe's e...   Apr 25 2012, 06:04 PM
Jake Raby   I am not over reacting.. I am stating facts so som...   Apr 25 2012, 07:40 PM
falconfp2001   I am not over reacting.. I am stating facts so so...   Apr 25 2012, 08:41 PM
brant   so this motor needs to be opened... not the end of...   Apr 25 2012, 07:59 PM
Jake Raby   It is what it is.. I promised myself the last time...   Apr 25 2012, 09:36 PM
gil914   What a Prima Donna! I'm so sick of reading...   Apr 26 2012, 07:10 AM
Prospectfarms   Forgive the following didactic but I want to comme...   Apr 26 2012, 07:17 AM
Jake Raby   This is not the first time this has happened.. It ...   Apr 26 2012, 07:38 AM
76-914   There is nothing that I hate more than dealing wit...   May 1 2012, 08:32 AM
jsayre914   CAR IS BACK ON THE ROAD !! Thanks everyb...   Jul 11 2012, 02:43 PM
jsayre914   And for those of us who want to quickly slap your ...   Jul 11 2012, 02:54 PM
struckn   Great news Joe, finally got your dream car back an...   Jul 11 2012, 09:05 PM


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