Ebay Phoenix Red 914 Questions Options

[TKO]

Can anyone share with me their thoughts on this 914? Seller says '73 2.0. The car has all black bumpers, no fog lights, etc. Is it possible it was original like this?

Many thanks!

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[sixerdon]

Although late to this discussion, my own observations are that it is a 1.7 conversion to a 2.0. This car started as a Standard 1.7 without appearance group or sport group components. The conversion most likely would have taken place back 20 years ago, as the owner wrote, when the car received a repaint. The owner stated, ".... the wheels were changed to the painted / polished Fuchs type on it now." at that time replacing the standard 4-1/2" pressed steel wheel. My interpretation is that they are repro fuchs. It's apparent the 4-1/2" spare wheel was kept. (This is my only contention where I disagree with Tom's assessment of wheel type availability. The 4-1/2" wheel size is clearly noted in the sales brochure posted for MY '73 "standard models with the 5-1/2" pressed steel wheels as optional with the appearance group. The real fuchs was standard on the 2.0, optional on 1.7 at the time this car was built. The "star mag type" wheel was introduced for the MY '74 models as the new standard size replacing the two pressed steel wheels.) The owner further stated that, " The carpet is a newer loop..." which would have replaced the Standard felt carpet.

In any event, it seems the bidding continues to increase as of this writing despite these opinions. Only the new owner will know whether or not he/she is purchasing what they think is a REAL 2.0. The owner admitted he hasn't been around 914's for very long and was simply stating what the PO told him. The buyer is the one needing an education, IMHO.

BTW. Use of the word "unknowledgeable" is appropriate IMHO as used by both Pat & Tom with the alternate being fraudulent.

Don

[Tom_T]

Although late to this discussion, my own observations are that it is a 1.7 conversion to a 2.0. This car started as a Standard 1.7 without appearance group or sport group components. The conversion most likely would have taken place back 20 years ago, as the owner wrote, when the car received a repaint. The owner stated, ".... the wheels were changed to the painted / polished Fuchs type on it now." at that time replacing the standard 4-1/2" pressed steel wheel. My interpretation is that they are repro fuchs. It's apparent the 4-1/2" spare wheel was kept. (This is my only contention where I disagree with Tom's assessment of wheel type availability. The 4-1/2" wheel size is clearly noted in the sales brochure posted for MY '73 "standard models with the 5-1/2" pressed steel wheels as optional with the appearance group. The real fuchs was standard on the 2.0, optional on 1.7 at the time this car was built. The "star mag type" wheel was introduced for the MY '74 models as the new standard size replacing the two pressed steel wheels.) The owner further stated that, " The carpet is a newer loop..." which would have replaced the Standard felt carpet.

In any event, it seems the bidding continues to increase as of this writing despite these opinions. Only the new owner will know whether or not he/she is purchasing what they think is a REAL 2.0. The owner admitted he hasn't been around 914's for very long and was simply stating what the PO told him. The buyer is the one needing an education, IMHO.

BTW. Use of the word "unknowledgeable" is appropriate IMHO as used by both Pat & Tom with the alternate being fraudulent.

Don

I see that the 4.5 is on the 1.7 Specs Don. Thanx!

However, my 73 2.0 did have it's Fuchs pulled off by the dealer when new, & replaced by 4 Rivieras & 1 5.5" star "mag style" steelie spare (so they got 5 "free" Fuchs to resell at 100% profit). It was first sold on 11/9/72, so the mag style steeies were definitely available in the 73 MY, even if not the OE on the 1.7's.

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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