What's the story with the Nissan Delta Wing at Le Mans?, Strange looking machine |
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What's the story with the Nissan Delta Wing at Le Mans?, Strange looking machine |
DNHunt |
Jun 16 2012, 08:22 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
What could be the advantages and disadvantages? Maybe weight and aero advantages. What would be the front suspension issues?
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DBCooper |
Jun 16 2012, 08:41 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
There aren't any particularly "tight areas" at Lemans, but why would one wheel make turn-in any quicker?
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jun 17 2012, 09:30 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
There aren't any particularly "tight areas" at Lemans, but why would one wheel make turn-in any quicker? "One wheel"? Looked at the picture yet? 2 front fenders. BTW, it's been all over the car media for well over a year, and Dan Gurney's heavily involved. AFIK, he's not generally involved with loser ideas. The Cap'n |
DBCooper |
Jun 17 2012, 01:50 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
There aren't any particularly "tight areas" at Lemans, but why would one wheel make turn-in any quicker? "One wheel"? Looked at the picture yet? 2 front fenders. BTW, it's been all over the car media for well over a year, and Dan Gurney's heavily involved. AFIK, he's not generally involved with loser ideas. The Cap'n Excuse me, should have asked "...why would the equivalent of one wheel make it turn in any quicker?" with the emphasis on "turn in". And so far no good answer. |
Richard Casto |
Jun 18 2012, 11:26 AM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
There aren't any particularly "tight areas" at Lemans, but why would one wheel make turn-in any quicker? "One wheel"? Looked at the picture yet? 2 front fenders. BTW, it's been all over the car media for well over a year, and Dan Gurney's heavily involved. AFIK, he's not generally involved with loser ideas. The Cap'n Excuse me, should have said "...why would the equivalent of one wheel make it turn in any quicker?" with the emphasis on "turn in". And still no good answer. There are a number of different write ups regarding "why" it works. Here is a quote that may talk to what you are looking for... "Locking propensity of the un-laden front wheel at corner entry is greatly reduced due to virtually no lateral load transfer with the narrow front track/wide rear track layout, steered wheel “scrub drag” moment is virtually zero greatly increasing tire utilization and reducing mid turn understeer." That quote is from here... http://www.deltawingracing.com/the-car/ I think the main factor is that they don't try to control body roll via the front of the car. In fact, I don't think that it even has to have a need for much real roll stiffness due to the narrow front track. So as the car rolls in a turn, the front doesn't have to deal with those loads. Also the majority of braking is done at the rear. So the front can just focus on turning. Word is that front tire wear was also very low. Regardless of if you like the car or not, it does seem to turn very well. While I don't like the car (see above post), I generally don't doubt the listed technical merits. Richard |
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