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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
914 anomilies, model year overlaps? |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Sep 4 2011, 10:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts.
'72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s. So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat? Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents? My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof. I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted. Paul |
Pat Garvey |
Sep 14 2011, 07:27 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts. '72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s. So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat? Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents? My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof. I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted. Paul From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat. |
sixerdon |
Sep 15 2011, 08:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts. '72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s. So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat? Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents? My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof. I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted. Paul From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat. According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914. Don |
Pat Garvey |
Dec 24 2011, 09:46 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts. '72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s. So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat? Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents? My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof. I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted. Paul From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat. According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914. Don I beg to disagree! In April 72 I drove a new TR6 and a new 914/4. I was leaning towards the TR6, but the floor heat was too much. The 914 was much better, but had too little airflow into the cabin, and the passenger seat was fixed. Porsche salesman told me to wait (really?) for a couple of months because there would be side vents, moveable passenger seat, and retractable belts. Waited until early August and the salesman was correct. My car is July production (according to the sticker). Has all the aforementioned updates. Don't have it in front of me, but I think Doc Johnson's tome would agree. Pat |
sixerdon |
Dec 26 2011, 08:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts. '72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s. So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat? Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents? My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof. I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted. Paul From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat. According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914. Don I beg to disagree! In April 72 I drove a new TR6 and a new 914/4. I was leaning towards the TR6, but the floor heat was too much. The 914 was much better, but had too little airflow into the cabin, and the passenger seat was fixed. Porsche salesman told me to wait (really?) for a couple of months because there would be side vents, moveable passenger seat, and retractable belts. Waited until early August and the salesman was correct. My car is July production (according to the sticker). Has all the aforementioned updates. Don't have it in front of me, but I think Doc Johnson's tome would agree. Pat Pat, Is it possible you drove a left over '71 dealer test vehicle? Doc Johnson says, "A third version of the dash was used on all models from 1972 on." (this is in reference to the two earlier versions of the '70/'71 models /4 & /6) "This corresponds to the wiper/washer system controls being moved to the column on four-cyl cars, disappearance of the center defrost vent and the appearance of fresh air vents on the ends of the dash board." Page 59 of the revised edition. In addition, I have an early '72 owners manual printed VIII/71 which shows a detailed picture of the new '72 MY dash. Don |
Pat Garvey |
Jun 28 2012, 05:26 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Well apparently (according to "World" information) some early '72/4s were delivered with non-inertia seatbelts, while later builds had the retractable belts. '72/6s appear to have the ignition switch on the steering column, as do all model year /4s. So I wonder, did the factory produce any 1972 model 914s with a fixed passenger seat, or conversely deliver any '71s' with an adjustable passenger seat? Or, are there any 1971 914s that had fresh air vents on the outboard ends of the dash, or 1972 models that didn't have these vents? My own '70/4 (build date 01/70; delivered 04/70) had the "appearance package" w/leather steering wheel, chrome bumpers, vinyl rollbar trim but did not have factory installed fog lights. The fog lights and their requisite grilles were installed at the dealer @ delivery. My car also was not equipped with the tethered "footrest" that the '70 and '71 models came with. My early car also did/does not have any headliner material on the f/g roof. I was just wondering just what sort of other trim and equipment variations from spec have been noted. Paul From the info & visuals that I've encountered through the years, '72 fours had a fixed passenger seat and non-retractable belts through May 72 production. June & forward production fours had the new belts and adjustable pass seat. According to my information, '72/4's passenger seats were all moveable. Most with the non-retractable belts. Check your '72 sales brochure. It's quite clear in the pics. Also, read the R&T article from Feb '72 as well as many other books written on 914. Don I beg to disagree! In April 72 I drove a new TR6 and a new 914/4. I was leaning towards the TR6, but the floor heat was too much. The 914 was much better, but had too little airflow into the cabin, and the passenger seat was fixed. Porsche salesman told me to wait (really?) for a couple of months because there would be side vents, moveable passenger seat, and retractable belts. Waited until early August and the salesman was correct. My car is July production (according to the sticker). Has all the aforementioned updates. Don't have it in front of me, but I think Doc Johnson's tome would agree. Pat Pat, Is it possible you drove a left over '71 dealer test vehicle? Doc Johnson says, "A third version of the dash was used on all models from 1972 on." (this is in reference to the two earlier versions of the '70/'71 models /4 & /6) "This corresponds to the wiper/washer system controls being moved to the column on four-cyl cars, disappearance of the center defrost vent and the appearance of fresh air vents on the ends of the dash board." Page 59 of the revised edition. In addition, I have an early '72 owners manual printed VIII/71 which shows a detailed picture of the new '72 MY dash. Don Don, Here's my plate. |
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