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> We are screwed smog law passed
dmenche914
post Jul 1 2004, 04:40 PM
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AB 2683 passed the Senate transport committee, which means it will continue on for more votes. This will require smog tests for 1976 cars and newer forever, even when they are forty, fifty years old!

Here is the breakdown of votes:

Murray, Figueroa, Florez, Perata, Scott, Speier, and Torlakson all voted Yes, BASTARDS!!!

Ashborn, Karnette, Morrow, all did not vote, CHICKEN SHITS!!!

Mc Clintock, and Brulte voted No, HEROS!!!

It appears it now goes to another Senate Committee, I will try to keep you all updated on this crummy law.

Please call the Bastards, and Chicken Shits, and let them know how disapointed you are in them, and please call the Heros thank them, and ask them what you can do to help get this law struck down as it procededs thru the senate.


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post Jul 2 2004, 04:14 AM
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Damn guys,
I try to be quiet about this stuff, but I respect you all too much to see such old style thinking go unchallenged.
You like dying of industrial disease? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Step back for a moment and look at the piles of cars on the road today. All of them are dumping smog into the air.
Then look at the emissions from your stinking teener. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fighting19.gif)
I'm not kidding, it doesn't get much worse than this. Friken air cooled engine, no Cat (pre 75) with antique FI. The average teener puts out 100 times the smog of a modern car (I kid you not). By modern standards, you must admit, the FI stinks. (literally) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

Try riding a bicycle behind one and then tell me about your emissions. Living in the Bay area for almost 40 years makes it obvious, LA is much worse. You all have seen the smog, probably felt it in your lungs without even knowing it. Get out in clean air once in a while and you can really feel the difference. IIRC Cars produce 70 percent of the smog here. Sorry to put a little reality in here, but the truth hurts sometimes.

If I seem a bit agitated, it's only because I used to be a head mechanic at a VW shop and I changed my profession just because I realized I was helping unknowing people muck up the air by keeping old cars running. I also happen to like breathing clean air while pedaling a bicycle or out hiking. Now I'm trying to help develop alternatives that don't suck. Speed is good, Fun is good, smog is bad and so are the oil companies that are robbing you of cash while promoting your early death.

I agree, the California visual requirement is bad, especially with the new dyno testers. If you can make it better, I believe we all should have that option. That limitation sucks.

Myself, I just change motors to something new. My 82/86 Vanagon runs a 97 Jetta engine (I built the van in 98), fully smog compliant. And my teener runs on solar power, but that's expensive and has it's downsides at this time. Yes, one upside is that I drive in the carpool lane alone any time I want. For long trips I use the ULEV Insight.

So my advice is give up on that expensive antique air cooled engine that can't hold combustion temperatures constant and therefore never will be a clean engine. I believe the engine has little to do with the excellent qualities of the 914 that we love so much but lots to do with the headaches. Throw in a modern Soob, Toy or some other fun motor, meet the latest smog spec and get more power while you're at it. Not only that, you'll get better mileage and it will start nice and smooth, every time.

Just to show I'm not a totally rigid Eco idiot, I did spend today riding a Honda CBR 1000F to the coast on some of the best motorcycling roads in the country. It's very quick and probably not clean at all! You gotta have fun too, but if you're doing it regularly I believe you also have to think about the long term impacts. Obviously without regulations, few of you are doing anything about your emissions. To me that says you would just as well breath the soup they call "air" in the big cities in China.

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
Just my nickels worth. It's a bit too long for 2 cents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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dmenche914   We are screwed smog law passed   Jul 1 2004, 04:40 PM
Jake Raby   Move to a real state.... Sorry to hear that guys,...   Jul 1 2004, 04:43 PM
rdauenhauer   Better yet Dave fill in your location so we know W...   Jul 1 2004, 04:52 PM
Jenny   or check out Tom's post titled AB 2683 passe...   Jul 1 2004, 04:55 PM
DrifterJay   I love owning a 72... :D   Jul 1 2004, 05:52 PM
fiid   IMHO it is inevitable that this will pass. The st...   Jul 1 2004, 06:16 PM
Andyrew   I COULD stand them makeing me do a tailpipe test (...   Jul 1 2004, 07:39 PM
Andyrew   Oh ya, i have a 73 in a box incase someone wants t...   Jul 1 2004, 07:40 PM
thomasotten   "Warm Winds Blowing Heating blue sky And a Road th...   Jul 1 2004, 08:54 PM
newdeal2   That's one thing I like about Florida...NO emm...   Jul 1 2004, 09:39 PM
redshift   None? I dunno, I had some in Florida before, but ...   Jul 1 2004, 10:17 PM
gklinger   <...   Jul 1 2004, 11:14 PM
Otmar   Damn guys, I try to be quiet about this stuff, bu...   Jul 2 2004, 04:14 AM
bob174   Thank God for Texas!!! They've ju...   Jul 2 2004, 05:17 AM
thomasotten     Jul 2 2004, 06:47 AM
PatW     Jul 2 2004, 07:46 AM
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Dr Evil   Fuck, I just couldn't let it go <_<   Jul 3 2004, 04:16 PM
markb     Jul 3 2004, 05:11 PM
Mark Henry   Well if you think cali is wacked check this out. ...   Jul 3 2004, 05:14 PM
fiid   There is the slight problem that most of californi...   Jul 3 2004, 08:47 PM
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Red-Beard   I have 1 stipulation before re-instituting the bra...   Jul 3 2004, 10:15 PM
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