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> Disconnected battery cable and reconnected, now starter wont engage
ericoneal
post Apr 16 2013, 06:44 PM
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I disconected the positive (and neg) cables. Reconnected, and now the car wont start. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) The dash lights and fuel pump come on, headlights are bright, battery is fully charged, but no click or anything. I checked all of the fuses under the steering wheel and 3 of them on the firewall by the battery and all are good.
Are there other fuses that I am missing? SHe has always fired up, really frustrated....
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Cupomeat
post Apr 17 2013, 07:07 AM
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Turn the headlights on, then try to start the car. If they also go out, you are dealing with either:
1. Dirty connections (Which the cleaning would fix)
or
2. Dead battery (could need charging or replacement).

You saying the lights go out is a telltale sign that the voltage drops significantly when you try to start it.

Do the cleaning and try again.

I hope this helps.
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post Apr 17 2013, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE(Cupomeat @ Apr 17 2013, 08:07 AM) *

Turn the headlights on, then try to start the car. If they also go out, you are dealing with either:
1. Dirty connections (Which the cleaning would fix)
or
2. Dead battery (could need charging or replacement).

You saying the lights go out is a telltale sign that the voltage drops significantly when you try to start it.

Do the cleaning and try again.

I hope this helps.

This was my first thought as well. My second thought was, All the accessories and lights, always go out when turning the key to the start position. I think its built that way. Easy to check voltage on battery.
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post Apr 17 2013, 05:37 PM
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OK. Just checked again. Put the battery from my Toyota in it, and nothing. Red and Green dash lights come on, fuel pump comes on, when I turn the key, red and green lights stay on, nothing happens. No click from the starter..
Should the small red wire in this picture: starter

be hot when the key is on? It is not, but the large on is.
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(ericoneal @ Apr 17 2013, 04:37 PM) *

OK. Just checked again. Put the battery from my Toyota in it, and nothing. Red and Green dash lights come on, fuel pump comes on, when I turn the key, red and green lights stay on, nothing happens. No click from the starter..
Should the small red wire in this picture: starter

be hot when the key is on? It is not, but the large on is.

In that picture, the red wire is the starter crank wire. Notice it is connected to the yellow crank wire. Only hot while cranking. Do you have the same solenoid? If so try to connect the red wire (spade terminal) directly to the started spade terminal.

Does this work?

Do you have the seatbelt interlock relay under the passenger seat? The started wire is interrupted if the seatbelts are not engaged. This relay tends to go bad. If you have it, jumper the yellow and yellow/red wire together.

Does this work?
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post Apr 18 2013, 10:19 AM
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"In that picture, the red wire is the starter crank wire. Notice it is connected to the yellow crank wire. Only hot while cranking. Do you have the same solenoid? If so try to connect the red wire (spade terminal) directly to the started spade terminal.
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The picture in the link is actually my car. I'm a bit confused about what you are asking, but will try to understand. The small red wire is hot only when cranking. The fat red wire from the battery to the starter is always hot. I do not have a yellow wire, but there are yellow plastic connectors. Are you saying to connect the small red wire to the same terminal as the large fat battery wire?

Thanks everyone for the help so far. If I cant get this started by Saturday, she's getting towed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

So this is what I know:

Battery is good
dash lights, fuel pump come on
Large wire to starter is hot
Small wire to little black box on starter is hot when cranking
other small brown wire on black box is always hot
all fuses that I can find are good.

maybe i need to beat the starter with a hammer? I tapped it with a socket wrench a bit, but probably could use more.
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ericoneal   Disconnected battery cable and reconnected   Apr 16 2013, 06:44 PM
jsconst   My starter used to do the same thing,(have a diffe...   Apr 16 2013, 06:51 PM
914itis   Are you sure you connected back the ground wire to...   Apr 16 2013, 07:03 PM
ericoneal   I havent touched the transmission at all. All I d...   Apr 16 2013, 07:07 PM
914itis   I havent touched the transmission at all. All I ...   Apr 16 2013, 07:17 PM
ericoneal   The ground wires near the battery seem tight. Sho...   Apr 16 2013, 07:38 PM
ericoneal   That did nothing. Its got to be something with th...   Apr 16 2013, 07:09 PM
ThePaintedMan   That did nothing. Its got to be something with t...   Apr 16 2013, 07:13 PM
struckn   Partially fried ignition switch? :idea:   Apr 16 2013, 07:12 PM
Elliot Cannon   Reach in and tap the solenoid (lightly).   Apr 16 2013, 07:41 PM
jsconst   Reach in and tap the solenoid (lightly). :agree...   Apr 16 2013, 08:02 PM
kg6dxn   Did you clean the battery cables and battery termi...   Apr 16 2013, 08:52 PM
Rand   Did you clean the battery cables and battery term...   Apr 16 2013, 09:06 PM
ericoneal   The starter is not clicking, the lights on the das...   Apr 17 2013, 06:55 AM
Jeff Hail   Its the gremlinector.   Apr 16 2013, 09:36 PM
Cupomeat   Turn the headlights on, then try to start the car....   Apr 17 2013, 07:07 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Turn the headlights on, then try to start the car...   Apr 17 2013, 07:16 AM
ericoneal   OK. Just checked again. Put the battery from my ...   Apr 17 2013, 05:37 PM
kg6dxn   OK. Just checked again. Put the battery from my...   Apr 17 2013, 09:20 PM
ericoneal   "In that picture, the red wire is the starter...   Apr 18 2013, 10:19 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Have you tried to jump the solenoid?   Apr 17 2013, 07:20 AM
ThePaintedMan   Hard to tell from just a picture, but it sure look...   Apr 17 2013, 05:55 PM
ericoneal   Tried the key both ways, jiggled. I dont think it...   Apr 17 2013, 06:22 PM
turk22   When I had a similar problem, it was because the R...   Apr 17 2013, 06:31 PM
stugray   That was my first thought just stick a screw driv...   Apr 17 2013, 06:36 PM
ericoneal   1 and 2 are both getting power and I have tried 2 ...   Apr 17 2013, 06:59 PM
Tom   Check the condition of the 4 red wires' connec...   Apr 18 2013, 10:21 AM
Tom   The little black box is a ford starter relay. Simp...   Apr 18 2013, 10:41 AM
rpmmaxxed   I have had this happen to my car a number of times...   Apr 18 2013, 12:15 PM
ericoneal   Thanks guys, I will try both of all of these tonig...   Apr 18 2013, 12:29 PM
Rand   It only takes a minute to jump the solenoid as sug...   Apr 18 2013, 12:30 PM
ericoneal   It only takes a minute to jump the solenoid as su...   Apr 18 2013, 01:01 PM
The Cabinetmaker   thank you Rand. I really didn't want to go dig...   Apr 18 2013, 12:32 PM
Jeffs9146   I have had one of the smaller red wires fall down ...   Apr 18 2013, 01:20 PM
bandjoey   To save your lifego to FLAPS and get a hand starte...   Apr 18 2013, 02:58 PM
ericoneal   Will do To save your lifego to FLAPS and get...   Apr 18 2013, 05:03 PM
stugray   In my 71 Ghia, the ignition switch went out, I had...   Apr 18 2013, 05:13 PM
ericoneal   It worked! The starter turned and it sparked ...   Apr 18 2013, 07:11 PM
Rand   It worked! The starter turned and it sparked...   Apr 18 2013, 08:23 PM
kg6dxn   Just bypass that stupid relay. It's not suppos...   Apr 18 2013, 07:25 PM
ericoneal   Somewhere in Kentucky a 914 just roared back to li...   Apr 18 2013, 07:45 PM
Rand   Just bypass that stupid relay. It's not suppo...   Apr 18 2013, 08:18 PM
914itis   We love happy ending here ! Glad you did it...   Apr 18 2013, 08:01 PM
stugray   Glad it worked! The reason some add the relay...   Apr 18 2013, 09:08 PM
Rand   I know this is an area of debate, but eliminating ...   Apr 18 2013, 09:35 PM
Rand   asab   Apr 18 2013, 09:43 PM
Tom   ericoneal, Glad you found the reason why your ...   Apr 19 2013, 12:19 PM
ericoneal   Thanks, thats very helpful. I will keep an eye on...   Apr 19 2013, 12:49 PM
ThePaintedMan   ericoneal, Glad you found the reason why your...   Apr 19 2013, 12:56 PM
Tom   ThePaintedMan, It would be impractical to repla...   Apr 19 2013, 02:01 PM


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