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> Disconnected battery cable and reconnected, now starter wont engage
ericoneal
post Apr 16 2013, 06:44 PM
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I disconected the positive (and neg) cables. Reconnected, and now the car wont start. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) The dash lights and fuel pump come on, headlights are bright, battery is fully charged, but no click or anything. I checked all of the fuses under the steering wheel and 3 of them on the firewall by the battery and all are good.
Are there other fuses that I am missing? SHe has always fired up, really frustrated....
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post Apr 19 2013, 02:01 PM
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ThePaintedMan,
It would be impractical to replace all of the wires associated with the starter circuit. Cleaning up the connections would be the best bet. Starting at the two larger wires (4.0 size) at the battery, determine which one goes to the key switch at terminal 30. Better yet just replace the 4 connectors on all red wires at the battery positive making sure to cut the wires back to nice clean copper and crimping the new connectors on well. The next connection is at terminal 30 of the key switch, check and replace as necessary. If your car has the under seat relay for the seal belts, check those for corrosion and replace as necessary. A lot of folks just jumper out this relay. The next one is key switch 50, a large yellow wire (4.0 size )that goes to the 14 pin connector at the relay board in the engine bay. FOR SAFETY, DO NOT REMOVE/REPLACE THIS CONNECTOR WITH THE BATTERY CONNECTED! Get the connector aligned 1 pin off and you will put 12 volts from the battery to ground.
You can clean the two relay connectors with small wire brushes and alcohol. Next is the 12 pin connector, then the connector at the starter solenoid. If all of these connections are clean and you still have problems, your key switch may need replacing, that is the one connection you can't see to inspect. If all connections are clean and the starter is known to be good, the relay kit will allow the starting system to work as a last resort.
I feel due to the high current needed by the solenoid for initial closing, this circuit should have been designed with a relay from the factory anyway. Much less stress on the key switch.
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ericoneal   Disconnected battery cable and reconnected   Apr 16 2013, 06:44 PM
jsconst   My starter used to do the same thing,(have a diffe...   Apr 16 2013, 06:51 PM
914itis   Are you sure you connected back the ground wire to...   Apr 16 2013, 07:03 PM
ericoneal   I havent touched the transmission at all. All I d...   Apr 16 2013, 07:07 PM
914itis   I havent touched the transmission at all. All I ...   Apr 16 2013, 07:17 PM
ericoneal   The ground wires near the battery seem tight. Sho...   Apr 16 2013, 07:38 PM
ericoneal   That did nothing. Its got to be something with th...   Apr 16 2013, 07:09 PM
ThePaintedMan   That did nothing. Its got to be something with t...   Apr 16 2013, 07:13 PM
struckn   Partially fried ignition switch? :idea:   Apr 16 2013, 07:12 PM
Elliot Cannon   Reach in and tap the solenoid (lightly).   Apr 16 2013, 07:41 PM
jsconst   Reach in and tap the solenoid (lightly). :agree...   Apr 16 2013, 08:02 PM
kg6dxn   Did you clean the battery cables and battery termi...   Apr 16 2013, 08:52 PM
Rand   Did you clean the battery cables and battery term...   Apr 16 2013, 09:06 PM
ericoneal   The starter is not clicking, the lights on the das...   Apr 17 2013, 06:55 AM
Jeff Hail   Its the gremlinector.   Apr 16 2013, 09:36 PM
Cupomeat   Turn the headlights on, then try to start the car....   Apr 17 2013, 07:07 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Turn the headlights on, then try to start the car...   Apr 17 2013, 07:16 AM
ericoneal   OK. Just checked again. Put the battery from my ...   Apr 17 2013, 05:37 PM
kg6dxn   OK. Just checked again. Put the battery from my...   Apr 17 2013, 09:20 PM
ericoneal   "In that picture, the red wire is the starter...   Apr 18 2013, 10:19 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Have you tried to jump the solenoid?   Apr 17 2013, 07:20 AM
ThePaintedMan   Hard to tell from just a picture, but it sure look...   Apr 17 2013, 05:55 PM
ericoneal   Tried the key both ways, jiggled. I dont think it...   Apr 17 2013, 06:22 PM
turk22   When I had a similar problem, it was because the R...   Apr 17 2013, 06:31 PM
stugray   That was my first thought just stick a screw driv...   Apr 17 2013, 06:36 PM
ericoneal   1 and 2 are both getting power and I have tried 2 ...   Apr 17 2013, 06:59 PM
Tom   Check the condition of the 4 red wires' connec...   Apr 18 2013, 10:21 AM
Tom   The little black box is a ford starter relay. Simp...   Apr 18 2013, 10:41 AM
rpmmaxxed   I have had this happen to my car a number of times...   Apr 18 2013, 12:15 PM
ericoneal   Thanks guys, I will try both of all of these tonig...   Apr 18 2013, 12:29 PM
Rand   It only takes a minute to jump the solenoid as sug...   Apr 18 2013, 12:30 PM
ericoneal   It only takes a minute to jump the solenoid as su...   Apr 18 2013, 01:01 PM
The Cabinetmaker   thank you Rand. I really didn't want to go dig...   Apr 18 2013, 12:32 PM
Jeffs9146   I have had one of the smaller red wires fall down ...   Apr 18 2013, 01:20 PM
bandjoey   To save your lifego to FLAPS and get a hand starte...   Apr 18 2013, 02:58 PM
ericoneal   Will do To save your lifego to FLAPS and get...   Apr 18 2013, 05:03 PM
stugray   In my 71 Ghia, the ignition switch went out, I had...   Apr 18 2013, 05:13 PM
ericoneal   It worked! The starter turned and it sparked ...   Apr 18 2013, 07:11 PM
Rand   It worked! The starter turned and it sparked...   Apr 18 2013, 08:23 PM
kg6dxn   Just bypass that stupid relay. It's not suppos...   Apr 18 2013, 07:25 PM
ericoneal   Somewhere in Kentucky a 914 just roared back to li...   Apr 18 2013, 07:45 PM
Rand   Just bypass that stupid relay. It's not suppo...   Apr 18 2013, 08:18 PM
914itis   We love happy ending here ! Glad you did it...   Apr 18 2013, 08:01 PM
stugray   Glad it worked! The reason some add the relay...   Apr 18 2013, 09:08 PM
Rand   I know this is an area of debate, but eliminating ...   Apr 18 2013, 09:35 PM
Rand   asab   Apr 18 2013, 09:43 PM
Tom   ericoneal, Glad you found the reason why your ...   Apr 19 2013, 12:19 PM
ericoneal   Thanks, thats very helpful. I will keep an eye on...   Apr 19 2013, 12:49 PM
ThePaintedMan   ericoneal, Glad you found the reason why your...   Apr 19 2013, 12:56 PM
Tom   ThePaintedMan, It would be impractical to repla...   Apr 19 2013, 02:01 PM


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