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> Chassis Stiffening - which kit? Cage?, Stiffening before paint, need help.
corpselaurel
post Jul 4 2004, 10:12 AM
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I have been reading and searching. So far I have eliminated the boxed trailing arms.
I want to stiffen the car up before I paint. What 'kit(s)' should I install?

I have read read that most of the pieces in the chassis stiffening kit are useless. Should I buy the kit and install the others?

I have also read that engman's kit helps a lot. And I was also considering the Inner Rocker Panel Frame Stiffeners.

I just don't know which combination I should install. Should I use all of them or do some cancel each other out (for lack of better wording). Post links to suppliers if you mention any.

I am open to the idea of putting a cage in but it has to be in kit form. Does anyone sell one and would I still need any of the stiffening mentioned above with a cage?

The car is not badly rusted except for the battery tray and underneath - completly gone. I will be repairing it. My plans for the car are daily driver with some autox. Next year I will swap in a more powerfull engine. Thanks for any help.
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post Jul 7 2004, 03:57 PM
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Safety isn't my concern, I just thought you had to have a cage to autox in some places. I might visit the drag strip to (since this car is so light and I plan to install a different engine down the road). But I guess I could wait untill I actually need one esp. since I am poor.

I have some rust on the rockers but it isn't that bad. I thought the clams were to stiffen not to repair though (since on pelican's site they say to use the repair kit first.) Engmans does more than enough then so that the clams won't help? I don't want extra weight or cost if it doesn't help.

I am still new to the 914 world but I have read about a few guys running over 400 front and 300 back spring rates. My brother had a mk3 and mk2 gti with 600# and 400# pound springs daily driven. (I love to drive them handles like they are on rails and IMO fine on the street.) So I wanted to have the car ready to accept these in case I wanted to go that route.
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corpselaurel   Chassis Stiffening - which kit? Cage?   Jul 4 2004, 10:12 AM
trekkor   I recommend Engman's highly. Nice thing is you...   Jul 4 2004, 10:25 AM
neo914-6  
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corpselaurel   Here is a pic of the kit from pelican. Which piec...   Jul 4 2004, 10:54 AM
trekkor   Believe me I want to. I have over 50 shots of the ...   Jul 4 2004, 11:02 AM
trekkor   My understanding is this: if you box stiffen the t...   Jul 4 2004, 11:11 AM
corpselaurel     Jul 4 2004, 11:33 AM
trekkor   Come to the Napa 914 lunch July 19 and see/feel th...   Jul 4 2004, 11:55 AM
corpselaurel   I would but it is way to far from me. It is in AZ...   Jul 4 2004, 12:14 PM
i love porsche   so the trailing arm stiffeners are a bad idea?   Jul 4 2004, 03:49 PM
trekkor   My understanding is the load get's transfered ...   Jul 4 2004, 05:14 PM
Eric_Shea   I have them (boxed control arms)... I don't th...   Jul 4 2004, 07:27 PM
corpselaurel   After doing some more reading I haver decided to i...   Jul 4 2004, 07:59 PM
Eric_Shea   I believe it's 6 and 7 but not certain. It ...   Jul 4 2004, 09:09 PM
9146986   ...   Jul 5 2004, 08:07 AM
Jeroen   If you're planning to put a cage in your car, ...   Jul 5 2004, 08:26 AM
Brett W   In my opinion 3 and 8 are fairly useless, but I th...   Jul 5 2004, 08:53 AM
Eric_Shea   :agree: with Ya-Roon If you're going cage th...   Jul 5 2004, 10:28 AM
RAR     Jul 5 2004, 12:39 PM
Qarl   Has anyone bought and installed an off-the-the she...   Jul 5 2004, 12:43 PM
RAR   Speaking of rollbars, is the biggest benefit of sa...   Jul 5 2004, 12:51 PM
Jeroen   Here's some good reading... http://www.914wor...   Jul 5 2004, 02:53 PM
Jeroen   More... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?ac...   Jul 5 2004, 02:57 PM
corpselaurel   I read a thread the other day which had a few diag...   Jul 7 2004, 03:30 PM
corpselaurel   Does anyone have instructions or a diagram for the...   Jul 7 2004, 03:40 PM
Jeroen   If this is a street / AX car, don't get a full...   Jul 7 2004, 03:47 PM
corpselaurel   Safety isn't my concern, I just thought you ha...   Jul 7 2004, 03:57 PM
Rob Ways   Would the interior weld-in kit work well with a we...   Jul 7 2004, 07:49 PM
Jeroen   Hey Rob, You have a "petty" bar on your rollbar, ...   Jul 7 2004, 08:04 PM
Jeroen  
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corpselaurel   I think I will pass on all of the kits and do some...   Jul 9 2004, 07:34 PM
Rob Ways   I have a weld in bar (tied into the rear longs and...   Jul 9 2004, 07:55 PM
Aaron Cox   rob, can you post a pic of your roll bar please ;)   Jul 9 2004, 08:03 PM
Rob Ways   OK- This first pict is the pass long tie. Note the...   Jul 9 2004, 08:25 PM
Rob Ways   Here's a pict of all the upper points. The fro...   Jul 9 2004, 08:27 PM
Rob Ways   This pict is the front pickup point welded into th...   Jul 9 2004, 08:29 PM
Rob Ways   Here's the driver's side. Note the positio...   Jul 9 2004, 08:31 PM
Rob Ways   Here's a closer look at the drivers side point...   Jul 9 2004, 08:33 PM
Rob Ways   I just had to post this one again.   Jul 9 2004, 08:34 PM
Aaron Cox   can you still fit a passenger?   Jul 9 2004, 08:49 PM
trekkor   I'll say this about chasis stiffening coupled ...   Jul 9 2004, 09:52 PM
Rob Ways   Passengers fit OK, but its at least 3 inches forwa...   Jul 9 2004, 11:37 PM
trekkor   Koni yellows- full soft front, full firm rear 31mm...   Jul 9 2004, 11:56 PM
Rob Ways   Why soften the front? What torsion bars? Who told ...   Jul 10 2004, 12:01 AM
Rob Ways   This is what it should look like.....   Jul 10 2004, 12:07 AM
trekkor   I am the experimental child. I believe the soft h...   Jul 10 2004, 12:18 AM
trekkor   Here's the car with the long lift. Don't h...   Jul 10 2004, 12:29 AM
trekkor   point of reference: here's what it looks like...   Jul 10 2004, 12:40 AM
Rob Ways   I shouldn't drive and tell... but the rear bar...   Jul 10 2004, 12:43 AM
Rob Ways   Oh, the Jagermeister car is N/A IMO   Jul 10 2004, 12:43 AM
Rob Ways   I dig the last picture and how you are leaning you...   Jul 10 2004, 12:45 AM
Rob Ways   I know this sounds crazy too, but I think the roll...   Jul 10 2004, 12:49 AM
trekkor   Come to Alameda, Rob. I have not run the stiff ki...   Jul 10 2004, 01:08 AM
Rob Ways   Thanks for the offer. I've got kid duty but ...   Jul 10 2004, 01:15 AM
trekkor   Rob, I was putting new wheels on today and when I ...   Jul 10 2004, 01:22 AM
Rob Ways   The latteral stiffness is there with my forward ba...   Jul 10 2004, 01:38 AM
trekkor   The first thing Brad noticed about my car when it ...   Jul 10 2004, 01:48 AM
914momo   I've been using a propane torch and a wood chi...   Jul 10 2004, 01:53 AM
Racer Chris   IMO the Engman kit is ony good because of the easy...   Jul 10 2004, 05:56 AM


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