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> Marcus' Corvair conversion, 914-C6
r3dplanet
post Jul 10 2013, 10:50 AM
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A few years back I got all excited about doing a Corvair engine conversion for my 1971 car. The project waffled. Numbers were crunched and chewed. Thought and diagrams and opinions were drawn out over long winter evenings.

One particularly rainy winter evening, I found an ad on Craigslist advertising a warehouse full of Corvair parts including engines. So my pal Rory and I drove a hundred miles into the boonies late one rainy night to what turned out to be an unmarked, geographically isolated, former slaughterhouse illuminated by a single 60 watt light bulb. No cell phone reception, no escape. We were met by a couple of toothless brothers who couldn't stop talking about Daddy. Seemingly they only did what Daddy wanted them to do. Daddy wanted them to sell the stash of Corvair parts. Daddy wanted them to steal my Toyota cargo van. Daddy needed to approve the transaction of cash for an engine. Daddy, it turned out, was long dead. The two brothers kept trying to separate Rory and I, and the creepier of the two brothers kept demanding my car keys so he could test drive my van, despite my insistence that it wasn't for sale. For the first time in a long time, I wish I had a tazer gun on me. The brothers eventually showed us exactly what I wanted - an RD code 1965 110HP engine. Fearing for our lives, Rory and I muscled the engine into the van while the brothers went to find more stuff for Daddy to sell to us, or you know, maybe a club or some rope or a ball gag or something.

I left the $100 on the bench and tore the hell out. Rory and I laughed all the way back to town, ever so pleased that we were neither killed, nor raped, nor eaten. Plus, we were one up on a Corvair engine.

So with a provenance like this, and seeing JRust's new car, Dr. Evil's project, and 914coops Nader's Nightmare all take shape I've finally decided to get serious about my own project: the VW-Porsche 914-C6.

The "C" stands for Corvair.
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post Jul 10 2013, 01:36 PM
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For your viewing pleasure, some barfy pics of the tear down so far.

Here's part of the reverse rotation assembly. A custom 130 tooth flywheel, an engine to gearbox adapter plate, and an Otto-20 reverse rotation hot cam. Needed still are the reverse distributor gearset and alternator pulley.

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And here's the engine as-is, right from the bottom of the Black Lagoon.

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The first thing to do is to gather 25 bins from Ikea for $4.99 each to separate and label everything. Then disassembly. To start, the magnesium fan and pulley is removed, followed by the top cover.

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Under the cover is another cover, or really a very big gasket.

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Under that gasket is another gasket, which when removed reveals the slimy innards of the crank case.

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Note. Since I'm reversing the motor and mounting in "backwards" into the car, for the sake of 914 terminology I'll henceforth switch the terms "front" and "back" from what GM people would use. On the front of the engine there's a aluminum assembly that houses the oil filter, oil pressure sender, and speedo cable. Six bolts and it pops off easily.

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Then the oil cooler.

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And finally the front engine cover which is held in with seven bolts and several nuts holding the bottom plate / front engine mount.

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r3dplanet   Marcus' Corvair conversion   Jul 10 2013, 10:50 AM
computers4kids   I will be looking forward to your build thread :be...   Jul 10 2013, 11:21 AM
r3dplanet   Right. My goals are straightforward. Since my 914 ...   Jul 10 2013, 12:55 PM
bandjoey   That place was featured in Texas Chainsaw Massacre...   Jul 10 2013, 01:01 PM
Steve   Could of also of been the "home" episode...   Jul 10 2013, 01:22 PM
r3dplanet   For your viewing pleasure, some barfy pics of the ...   Jul 10 2013, 01:36 PM
r3dplanet   That front engine mount plate is the bearer of mys...   Jul 10 2013, 01:54 PM
r3dplanet   The head is free but before removal the carburetor...   Jul 10 2013, 02:03 PM
aircooledtechguy   One particularly creepy evening, I found an ad on...   Jul 10 2013, 02:44 PM
rick 918-S   Fun :D   Jul 11 2013, 07:00 AM
JRust   Oh man what have I done :evilgrin: .Excellent Marc...   Jul 11 2013, 08:02 AM
FourBlades   Cool, its the "Hills Have Horizontal Fans...   Jul 11 2013, 09:06 PM
sixnotfour   you guys should group buy 3 x 4 = 12 john barnes ...   Jul 11 2013, 11:06 PM
Randal   What do you use to clean up all the metal work? ...   Jul 12 2013, 09:00 AM
r3dplanet   I usually just bring a carload of parts to Gary, m...   Jul 12 2013, 10:35 AM
Dr Evil   :thumbsup: all you need for tins are the top and t...   Jul 12 2013, 10:11 AM
r3dplanet   Hi there. When the project first started, I wasn...   Jul 12 2013, 10:30 AM
scotty b   :thumbsup: Roller rockers have been a nice to...   Oct 1 2013, 07:55 PM
MDG   :thumbsup: Roller rockers have been a nice to...   Oct 1 2013, 08:17 PM
balljoint   :thumbsup: Roller rockers have been a nice to...   Oct 1 2013, 08:42 PM
Dr Evil   :thumbsup: Roller rockers have been a nice t...   Oct 1 2013, 08:45 PM
scotty b   [quote name='Dr Evil' post='1894148' date='Jul 1...   Oct 1 2013, 09:07 PM
Dr Evil   Oh ya, I also have another 110 naked head if you w...   Jul 12 2013, 10:15 AM
r3dplanet   That's good thinking. I won't be re-using ...   Jul 12 2013, 10:32 AM
Dr Evil   You can sell those P/C to Clarks for cores. Beats ...   Jul 12 2013, 10:15 AM
r3dplanet   More disassembly. Because the motor is a touch on...   Jul 12 2013, 10:31 PM
r3dplanet   Flipping the engine shows 19 bolts to remove the o...   Jul 12 2013, 10:46 PM
Dr Evil   Your heads show that water and oil were allowed to...   Jul 13 2013, 12:23 AM
r3dplanet   Yeah, it was pretty damp in the slaughterhouse. ...   Jul 13 2013, 01:16 AM
relentless   Ah, this brings back memories. My buddy had ran m...   Jul 13 2013, 01:51 PM
Dr Evil   Why would you put a spring on the tensioner when i...   Jul 13 2013, 09:03 PM
rick_cv   Just curious. What do you use for flywheel, clutc...   Jul 14 2013, 09:55 PM
r3dplanet   Good question. The flywheel is a custom part that...   Jul 14 2013, 10:28 PM
Dr Evil   I got a set off of ebay; Crown adapter from engine...   Jul 15 2013, 10:32 AM
rick_cv   I see 127 tooth, 130 tooth and 215mm flywheels. I...   Jul 15 2013, 02:55 PM
r3dplanet   You certainly want the 130 tooth flywheel. I genui...   Jul 15 2013, 05:17 PM
r3dplanet   Okay, I have to admit that I'm a little confus...   Jul 15 2013, 11:27 PM
Dr Evil   That is a bus pressure plate. Possible a bus flywh...   Jul 16 2013, 07:25 AM
Dr Evil   Here is Clarks catalog for the conversion flywheel...   Jul 16 2013, 07:27 AM
rick_cv   That is what I thought when I first saw your image...   Jul 16 2013, 01:45 PM
r3dplanet   From what I've read the adapter plates should ...   Jul 16 2013, 10:57 PM
r3dplanet   I've taken the past couple of evenings to do s...   Jul 17 2013, 12:22 AM
r3dplanet   Moving along with a close-up of cam wear. This doe...   Jul 17 2013, 12:42 AM
relentless   You're making good progress Marcus. It's ...   Jul 17 2013, 12:36 PM
Dr Evil   No special cross hatch, no special rings, and you ...   Jul 18 2013, 07:04 PM
r3dplanet   Not much happening today. I spent a good hour hash...   Jul 18 2013, 09:22 PM
rick_cv   Who are you using for a machine shop? Dan Hall...   Jul 19 2013, 02:46 PM
relentless   Well Marcus, Dr. Evil says I shouldn't comment...   Jul 19 2013, 03:01 PM
Dr Evil   Well Marcus, Dr. Evil says I shouldn't commen...   Jul 19 2013, 03:39 PM
Dr Evil   Last I saw Ray Sedman (sp) was doing the 3.1 with ...   Jul 19 2013, 03:02 PM
r3dplanet   I want to tell everyone that this is my favorite a...   Jul 19 2013, 04:04 PM
JRust   As far as machine work goes: the case prep, crank...   Jul 19 2013, 06:27 PM
r3dplanet   Wait, what? What's wrong with your motor? I ...   Jul 19 2013, 06:54 PM
Dr Evil   I can not seem to stick around on other forums. Th...   Jul 19 2013, 04:26 PM
andys   I think it was one of the HP book series on ...   Jul 19 2013, 04:29 PM
r3dplanet   Ah, I found an out-of-print copy and it's on t...   Jul 19 2013, 06:55 PM
r3dplanet   Some minor progress happening today. The machinist...   Aug 8 2013, 08:23 PM
gf4c   Hello Marcus you wrote: He ran the case halves t...   Aug 11 2013, 08:57 PM
andys   Looking good! Comming from 30+ years of manag...   Aug 9 2013, 10:03 AM
r3dplanet   Nope. I used a micrometer. The calipers were just ...   Aug 9 2013, 01:37 PM
andys   Nope. I used a micrometer. The calipers were just...   Aug 9 2013, 03:09 PM
Dr Evil   :) This thread pleases me :)   Aug 9 2013, 05:49 PM
injunmort   I don't mean to be obtuse, and I certainly don...   Aug 10 2013, 06:42 PM
r3dplanet   Correct. I have no idea why. Apparently GM enginee...   Aug 10 2013, 07:03 PM
DBCooper   It wasn't just GM engineers, remember who they...   Aug 12 2013, 09:32 AM
McMark   Porsche did the same thing until the stopped makin...   Sep 30 2013, 09:38 PM
r3dplanet   Thanks for the input, Marty. I appreciate it. Mart...   Aug 11 2013, 09:34 PM
gf4c   Thanks for the input, Marty. I appreciate it. Mar...   Aug 13 2013, 09:48 AM
r3dplanet   Some more progress on this long term project. I...   Sep 28 2013, 04:17 PM
gf4c   -snip- I'm actually considering pulling all o...   Oct 1 2013, 10:43 AM
r3dplanet   Hey, those are cool! Where can I find them? Or...   Oct 1 2013, 10:55 AM
gf4c   Hey, those are cool! Where can I find them? O...   Oct 4 2013, 11:11 AM
veekry9   Some more progress on this long term project. I...   Oct 13 2013, 05:43 PM
914coop   Hey Marcus, welcome to the madness. Got good info...   Oct 1 2013, 06:47 PM
ben*james   Marcus, good talking with you today. Good luck wi...   Oct 1 2013, 08:18 PM
Dr Evil   Indeed. I want to take pics before I update my thr...   Oct 1 2013, 09:17 PM
scotty b   Indeed. I want to take pics before I update my th...   Oct 1 2013, 09:18 PM
Eric_Shea   Did someone say "Roller Rockers"? http:...   Oct 1 2013, 11:15 PM
tdgray   Just saw this thread... great stuff there Marcus   Oct 4 2013, 11:22 AM
veltror   Did someone say "Roller Rockers"? http...   Oct 4 2013, 12:22 PM
Jeff Hail   Fun project. I like your Barracuda also.. Formula ...   Oct 5 2013, 12:38 PM
Dr Evil   Here are the pics of my roller rocker failure. It ...   Oct 18 2013, 02:32 PM
veekry9   Greetings Dr. Evil.I am Vic from across the lake i...   Oct 18 2013, 04:59 PM
r3dplanet   I'm not dead yet. However, I am totally bumm...   Jan 20 2014, 02:17 AM
Vacca Rabite   ...But they require a load of bread to capitaliz...   Feb 22 2014, 10:53 PM
r3dplanet   AH HA! I knew someone would chime in. I'm ...   Feb 22 2014, 11:20 PM
r3dplanet   So let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories...   Feb 22 2014, 05:04 PM
r3dplanet   When the week of grinding had finally come to an e...   Feb 22 2014, 05:26 PM
r3dplanet   Now that the case is clean it's time to really...   Feb 22 2014, 05:53 PM
r3dplanet   Okay. It's time for a little paint. I gave th...   Feb 22 2014, 06:23 PM
r3dplanet   The biggest score I've made thus far are the h...   Feb 22 2014, 07:16 PM
Dr Evil   Wow, man. Thanks for the coverage. You are meticul...   Feb 22 2014, 09:17 PM
r3dplanet   I just want to do this job once. Certainly this is...   Feb 22 2014, 11:17 PM
DBCooper   Really enjoying your build, Mr. r3dplanet, and tha...   Feb 22 2014, 09:48 PM
r3dplanet   That, sir, paints quite a picture. Please do not d...   Feb 22 2014, 11:18 PM
DBCooper   Well, I'm probably exaggerating a little. My ...   Feb 23 2014, 08:52 AM
sixnotfour   I started with Corviars, air cooled, 6cylinders, t...   Feb 23 2014, 08:04 PM
r3dplanet   So, I've been spending the past few weeks lear...   Mar 18 2014, 10:35 PM
r3dplanet   I stared at it for twenty minutes or so until it g...   Mar 18 2014, 10:46 PM
rsrguy3   I am watching with a keen eye as I'm seriously...   Mar 18 2014, 11:14 PM
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