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Rear brakes and e-brake... |
edhall |
Aug 15 2013, 12:02 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 14-August 13 From: Uk Member No.: 16,254 Region Association: None |
Hi guys, just joined as I've just got a 914. Need a little help with parts compatibility and wondered if anyone could help?
Car is a 74 914 with a 3.2 Carrera engine, 901 trans, and it stops with 911 SC vented rotors and calipers all round. Thing is, it doesn't have an emergency brake. The car was built in California but here in the uk it cannot be road legal without one. Do I go 911 style drum in disc or 914 style ebrake on a calipers? Thanks in advance |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 15 2013, 11:15 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
For all of the money and time you would spend fitting a 911 handbrake solution you could go with a proper factory solution and bolt up factory handbrake cables for less money and less hassles. I know because I do both. I've built probably 12 complete suspensions using 911 components.
This is, in fact, why we went forward developing the VB914-6 and VB914-6/GT calipers. It's now cheaper to do it right: If you're a stickler for originality, I have 3 pair of stock 914-6 calipers available @ $1,200.00 per pair: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pmbperformance.citymax.com-1110-1376586924.1.jpg) We also have the VB914-6 alloy calipers as mentioned above @ $799.00 per pair: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pmbperformance.citymax.com-1110-1376586924.2.JPG) The 914-6/GT versions would bolt up to your rear vented rotors for $899.00 per pair: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pmbperformance.citymax.com-1110-1376586927.3.JPG) All of these have the same 38mm piston size and the same FSMI D31 pad size your 911 rear calipers have. |
worn |
Aug 15 2013, 01:33 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,373 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
For all of the money and time you would spend fitting a 911 handbrake solution you could go with a proper factory solution and bolt up factory handbrake cables for less money and less hassles. I know because I do both. I've built probably 12 complete suspensions using 911 components. This is, in fact, why we went forward developing the VB914-6 and VB914-6/GT calipers. It's now cheaper to do it right: All of these have the same 38mm piston size and the same FSMI D31 pad size your 911 rear calipers have. Hi Eric, I have the 911 SC brake parts in hand and can handle the parking brake conversion. Would you comment on the differences between those vented brakes and the reproduction 914-6 brakes? I know what I have because I also have a 911SC, but I don't have familiarity with the original 914-6 because I am making it from a 914-4 as a starting point. Thanks, and also thanks for doing all this stuff for us. Do you get to pour the metal? |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 15 2013, 07:58 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
For all of the money and time you would spend fitting a 911 handbrake solution you could go with a proper factory solution and bolt up factory handbrake cables for less money and less hassles. I know because I do both. I've built probably 12 complete suspensions using 911 components. This is, in fact, why we went forward developing the VB914-6 and VB914-6/GT calipers. It's now cheaper to do it right: All of these have the same 38mm piston size and the same FSMI D31 pad size your 911 rear calipers have. Hi Eric, I have the 911 SC brake parts in hand and can handle the parking brake conversion. Would you comment on the differences between those vented brakes and the reproduction 914-6 brakes? I know what I have because I also have a 911SC, but I don't have familiarity with the original 914-6 because I am making it from a 914-4 as a starting point. Thanks, and also thanks for doing all this stuff for us. Do you get to pour the metal? SC parts will be even more difficult to fit. The bearing is larger and the hole diameter won't line up with a 914 control arm. I think you're asking for a comparison of the SC rear caliper you have an the 914-6 and or our reproduction so, here goes. Same piston size 38mm Same pad size FSMI D31 Nose section is cast from the same casting, just machine out the hole for the adjuster 914-6 variants have adjustable pistons/pad clearance 914-6 variants have integrated handbrake Our reproductions are under 3lbs each saving a total of 8lbs. Fastener size on the 911 and 914-6 caliper is M7. Our reproduction is M8 Stock is cast steel Ours is cast aluminum I can barely pour my own beer let alone molten metal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
worn |
Aug 16 2013, 11:39 AM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,373 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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SC parts will be even more difficult to fit. The bearing is larger and the hole diameter won't line up with a 914 control arm. I think you're asking for a comparison of the SC rear caliper you have an the 914-6 and or our reproduction so, here goes. Same piston size 38mm Same pad size FSMI D31 Nose section is cast from the same casting, just machine out the hole for the adjuster 914-6 variants have adjustable pistons/pad clearance 914-6 variants have integrated handbrake Our reproductions are under 3lbs each saving a total of 8lbs. Fastener size on the 911 and 914-6 caliper is M7. Our reproduction is M8 Stock is cast steel Ours is cast aluminum I can barely pour my own beer let alone molten metal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) [/quote] I have the whole SC front suspension with spindles, so I think that should work - eh? So similar characteristics in terms of braking, but the SC would be a PITA in terms of fiddling and also heavy. You are tempting me. I pour aluminum in the driveway as an amusement, but have bought more safety equipment since my son got burned with a little tiny piece. Thanks Eric! |
914_teener |
Aug 16 2013, 12:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,250 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
[quote name='worn' date='Aug 16 2013, 10:39 AM' post='1910295']
[/quote] SC parts will be even more difficult to fit. The bearing is larger and the hole diameter won't line up with a 914 control arm. I think you're asking for a comparison of the SC rear caliper you have an the 914-6 and or our reproduction so, here goes. Same piston size 38mm Same pad size FSMI D31 Nose section is cast from the same casting, just machine out the hole for the adjuster 914-6 variants have adjustable pistons/pad clearance 914-6 variants have integrated handbrake Our reproductions are under 3lbs each saving a total of 8lbs. Fastener size on the 911 and 914-6 caliper is M7. Our reproduction is M8 Stock is cast steel Ours is cast aluminum I can barely pour my own beer let alone molten metal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) [/quote] I have the whole SC front suspension with spindles, so I think that should work - eh? So similar characteristics in terms of braking, but the SC would be a PITA in terms of fiddling and also heavy. You are tempting me. I pour aluminum in the driveway as an amusement, but have bought more safety equipment since my son got burned with a little tiny piece. Thanks Eric! [/quote] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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