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> My First Build Thread, and a long time comin'
skeates
post Sep 15 2008, 12:09 AM
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So...technically I started this restoration a month ago, but now it has a thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

A little history...This was my first car. I picked it up for $1200 back in high school and had it towed home with mice in the glove box and hoses going to no where in the engine compartment! My dad and I had it up and running off and on for three years before I shipped off to southern California for college. It has sat in the 'rents driveway for 5 years now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) waiting for the restoration that it deserves

Well...now that I'm edumacated and have a "real" job (and also have moved back to Northern California) my pockets are slightly deeper than in high school and the build has commenced!

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So far I have stripped it to a tub, built me a rotisserie and washed off about 30 years of road grime and PO molestation. Along the way I even made a new friend! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Oct 28 2013, 06:29 PM
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If anyone wants some good info on Subaru transmissions let me know - I found some awesome threads on 'em!


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You got my attention. What tranny info do you have.
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post Oct 28 2013, 08:51 PM
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You got my attention. What tranny info do you have.


Here are some good links to get you started:

Gear ratios for various tranny codes: http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/trans.html
Overview of Subaru transmissions, weaknesses, and upgrade paths: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665334
More gear ratio discussion: http://www.rs25.com/forums/f8/t100042-lear...tml#post1598005

It seems like all the discussion about the weak spots in the Subaru transmissions come down to two theory's. The first is that the case flexes under load because of it's split design and messes up the gear mesh. The second theory is that it is shock loading the gears which aren't quite beefy enough. It was interesting to read that many of the failures were actually 3rd and 4th gear, not first! Either way since we use it in 2 wheel drive in the 914 the transmissions would be under quite a bit less stress. Less stress because excess torque is "dispelled" by wheel spin. With two tires we don't have enough traction to apply the full torque of the engine on hard launches (unless you are running wide slicks of course). Thus it should be able to handle quite a bit more torque/HP than in an all wheel drive application. I suppose I'll find out soon enough with the EZ36!

I noticed that some of the gear ratios in the thread I listed contradict with each other, particularly on the final drive. I ended up feeling fairly confident that the Legacy GT (Turbo) box had a 3.9 final drive ratio and had slightly taller gear ratios than the WRX boxes. Since my engine should have a lot more torque than the WRX (at least at the lower RPMs) I wanted the taller gears. Plus it minimizes my RPMs while cruising on the freeway. That said, the '06 - '07 WRX's had a 3.7 final drive ratio which actually makes 4th and 5th effectively taller than the Legacy GT. However, I felt that the lower FD would add more stress to the gears...of course, I was more or less at the mercy of the dismantler in terms of what they had available. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Way I figure it, if you are running a 6 cylinder or turbo then you ought to be fine with almost any transmission post 2003. In 2003 they "upgraded" the gears by making them thicker. Prior to then only the WRX transmissions had the thicker gears. You are probably already aware that you also need to make sure that you are matching the slave cylinder, fly wheel and clutch (push vs. pull type), but that has been discussed here at some length in some of the other Subaru threads. I can find those links for you if you want.

Hope that helps!
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skeates   My First Build Thread   Sep 15 2008, 12:09 AM
skeates   Here are some picks of the car as it currently sit...   Sep 15 2008, 12:17 AM
749142   i dont know anything about the longs but just want...   Sep 15 2008, 12:26 AM
roadster fan   Looks good! Before you get too carried away...   Sep 15 2008, 02:53 PM
jcd914   :agree: You should get some bracing in the door ...   Sep 16 2008, 12:32 AM
skeates   Thanks for the welcome. My wife and I are in East ...   Sep 16 2008, 10:13 AM
skeates   I started the big dig into the hell hole this week...   Sep 22 2008, 11:24 PM
skeates   Next weekend I plan on breaking out the sandblaste...   Sep 22 2008, 11:30 PM
rick 918-S   Lots of compliments will keep your helper around. ...   Sep 23 2008, 12:02 AM
LarryR   So far I have stripped it to a tub, built me a r...   Sep 23 2008, 12:08 AM
skeates   Yeah, I thought I had gotten rid the creepy crawly...   Sep 23 2008, 09:40 AM
skeates   Got a little bit of work done yesterday on the car...   Sep 25 2008, 10:58 PM
jc914   Good job so far keep posting pics. I wish I could ...   Sep 26 2008, 02:17 PM
biosurfer1   I'm out in Roseville and don't have many p...   Sep 26 2008, 04:41 PM
skeates   Ok....its been a whjile since I've last posted...   Jan 1 2009, 01:17 AM
Cheapsnake   Nice work Skeates. Looks very much like the condi...   Jan 2 2009, 08:32 AM
skeates   Ok kids, I know its been a while - but here are so...   Mar 15 2009, 03:35 PM
skeates   Its been so long since I've posted on this thr...   Aug 1 2010, 05:56 PM
skeates   Some pics of the passenger door open and closed: ...   Aug 1 2010, 06:08 PM
scotty b   Now that it is too late I can tell you that bracin...   Aug 1 2010, 06:20 PM
jmill   Look for a thread from me soon on proper bracing,...   Aug 1 2010, 06:42 PM
skeates   I was hoping was hoping for a slightly less nihili...   Aug 1 2010, 06:50 PM
rick 918-S   I was hoping was hoping for a slightly less nihil...   Aug 3 2010, 06:40 PM
skeates   Hello all – I’ve been in lurking mode for a wh...   Feb 7 2013, 12:44 AM
Cairo94507   Cool - Very nice to see this thread come back to l...   Feb 7 2013, 07:33 AM
skeates   So As promised, here are some pics of the progress...   Mar 4 2013, 12:14 AM
skeates   With the rear trunk mods and rust repair finish...   Mar 4 2013, 12:45 AM
skeates   Got some time in over the last couple of weeks on ...   Mar 24 2013, 10:14 PM
skeates   Here are some picks at my first ever attempt to do...   Mar 24 2013, 10:19 PM
skeates   A little more progress to report: - Mocked-up the...   Apr 15 2013, 04:35 PM
skeates   When I was fitting the front A-arms I found some b...   Apr 15 2013, 04:46 PM
saigon71   Great work man! :beer2:   Apr 15 2013, 07:34 PM
skeates   It's been a while since I've posted any pr...   Oct 14 2013, 10:50 PM
arkitect   Glad to see your back on track. I know the time th...   Oct 14 2013, 11:22 PM
OllieG   Great thread and work!...I'm doing a VERY ...   Oct 15 2013, 04:52 AM
skeates   Thanks for the encouragement! Sometimes it...   Oct 15 2013, 06:34 AM
Cairo94507   Wow you have definitely been busy. That car is co...   Oct 15 2013, 06:56 AM
skeates   Got some time this weekend to work on the car and ...   Oct 28 2013, 01:21 PM
skeates   I was also able to run some errands out at the par...   Oct 28 2013, 02:28 PM
Dr Evil   Dang, how have I missed this. You are doing exactl...   Oct 28 2013, 02:34 PM
Eric_Shea   Nice build.   Oct 28 2013, 03:13 PM
76-914   If anyone wants some good info on Subaru transmiss...   Oct 28 2013, 06:29 PM
skeates   You got my attention. What tranny info do you ha...   Oct 28 2013, 08:51 PM
skeates   I've been slowly making progress behind the sc...   Jan 20 2014, 07:34 PM
76-914   :thumbsup: Congrat's, That's a major miles...   Jan 20 2014, 08:05 PM
skeates   So - as soon as I got the engine in it was time to...   Feb 22 2014, 09:04 PM
sixnotfour   The front mount is awesome..good work   Feb 22 2014, 10:25 PM
Socalandy   Awesome work, keep the progress pics coming!...   Feb 22 2014, 10:34 PM
rick 918-S   Glad to see in your absences you were able to get ...   Feb 23 2014, 07:30 AM
skeates   Glad to see in your absences you were able to get...   Feb 24 2014, 02:42 PM
76-914   Deja vu.   Feb 23 2014, 09:11 AM
abnrdo   Nice work man! Keep it up, your giving me ins...   Feb 23 2014, 03:03 PM
skeates   Nice work man! Keep it up, your giving me in...   Feb 24 2014, 02:47 PM
skeates   Got a few more hours in yesterday. Re-installed th...   Feb 24 2014, 02:59 PM
ruby914   Somehow I missed a lot of your progress. The car i...   Sep 24 2014, 11:08 AM


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