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| Jetsetsurfshop |
 Dec 17 2013, 10:32 AM
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Hey Everyone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Here's what I'm running 2258cc 10.5 to 1 compression 40 webers 494 web cam type 1 oil pump mocal oil cooler 25 row mocal sandwich w/thermostat adapter accusump 2 quart Brad Penn Air-cooled oil 15-50 (5 1/2 quarts) Let me explain my set-up The oil cooler is a rear mount under the car on the passenger side rear. I made some duct work and its almost vertical to catch the most air as possible. Track conditions Sunny, low 80s, 30min sessions question 1) With that cooler I didn't expect to run in the 230f oil temps. Is 230f acceptable? question 2) I also have some oil on the top of the case /engine tin pooling. 1-2 side. It only happens under WOT. Any ideas? question 3) I never set-up an accusump and I don't like it so far. It over fills the case at shut-off. Do I have to much air in it (9lbs)? Other then my oil questions, I had a great time. Ran a 2:51. My new best time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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| ThePaintedMan |
Dec 20 2013, 12:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States 
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Brant, I KNOW I've asked you this before, probably over two years ago when I first started. But is that all there is to it to add a front oil cooler for a /4? A high volume pump, sandwich adapter, lines, cooler and ducting? I admit I still don't quite get the Type 4 oiling system, but I was always worried about pressure dropping off from running oil that far forward and then back.
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| brant |
Dec 20 2013, 10:55 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,831 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Dec 19 2013, 11:01 PM)  Brant, I KNOW I've asked you this before, probably over two years ago when I first started. But is that all there is to it to add a front oil cooler for a /4? A high volume pump, sandwich adapter, lines, cooler and ducting? I admit I still don't quite get the Type 4 oiling system, but I was always worried about pressure dropping off from running oil that far forward and then back. yes sir... its one of those jobs that sounds alot worse than it actually is. Depending on the motor, I've had some motors with the addition of the oil pressure spring kit also. but oil pressure drop off isn't a problem with a larger pump. putting the pump in can be harder than the rest of the job. |
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Jetsetsurfshop recent Sebring Abuse Dec 17 2013, 10:32 AM
brant you really need a front cooler to improve efficien... Dec 17 2013, 10:41 AM
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you really need a front cooler to improve efficie... Dec 21 2013, 01:17 PM Jetsetsurfshop I didn't like the idea of running the oil line... Dec 17 2013, 10:57 AM SirAndy Also worried about creating lift with the bottom e... Dec 17 2013, 11:09 PM Jetsetsurfshop
Also worried about creating lift with the bottom ... Dec 18 2013, 09:38 PM brant Back when we ran an accusump. We used to close the... Dec 17 2013, 11:32 AM Jetsetsurfshop
Back when we ran an accusump. We used to close th... Dec 17 2013, 08:14 PM ThePaintedMan Hey Shane,
I don't know much about Accusump... Dec 17 2013, 07:15 PM Jetsetsurfshop
Hey Shane,
I don't know much about Accusum... Dec 17 2013, 08:15 PM nolift914
Hey Shane,
I don't know much about Accusu... Dec 18 2013, 02:22 PM Jetsetsurfshop
[quote name='Jetsetsurfshop' post='1971879' date=... Dec 18 2013, 09:47 PM brant if you don't want to use it, just shut the val... Dec 17 2013, 09:29 PM Seabird
if you don't want to use it, just shut the va... Dec 19 2013, 02:08 PM brant
if you don't want to use it, just shut the v... Dec 19 2013, 05:00 PM Woody Get rid of the head vents. Plug em off. Drill the ... Dec 17 2013, 10:03 PM carr914
I didn't like the idea of running the oil lin... Dec 18 2013, 05:48 AM carr914 Here's another Duct to Wheel Well
Dec 18 2013, 05:59 AM brant The exit must be larger or less restrictive than t... Dec 18 2013, 07:27 AM Racer Chris An accusump is an engine saver if its set up corre... Dec 18 2013, 07:30 PM Jetsetsurfshop
An accusump is an engine saver if its set up corr... Dec 19 2013, 07:01 PM nolift914
Hey Everyone :D
Here's what I'm running... Dec 19 2013, 02:47 PM SirAndy What type fuel are you running with the 10.5 to 1 ... Dec 19 2013, 04:39 PM Jetsetsurfshop
Hey Everyone :D
Here's what I'm runnin... Dec 19 2013, 06:51 PM brant if you use a wide band, its best to check your rat... Dec 19 2013, 07:01 PM brant I re-read the thread and answered my own question.... Dec 19 2013, 07:08 PM Racer Chris
Brant, I KNOW I've asked you this before, pro... Dec 20 2013, 08:55 AM carr914 George, as long as you have the Upgrade to the Oil... Dec 20 2013, 02:32 AM ThePaintedMan Gotcha, thanks guys. Still trying to figure out if... Dec 20 2013, 11:53 AM Jetsetsurfshop
Gotcha, thanks guys. Still trying to figure out i... Dec 20 2013, 12:31 PM ThePaintedMan
I don't mind a good hijack. Its all good info... Dec 20 2013, 12:53 PM brant I've used the melling in about 7 motors now
s... Dec 20 2013, 12:47 PM Jetsetsurfshop Still working on getting the oil to cool down. Wor... Dec 22 2013, 12:13 PM Seabird I like the installation, why not just add a fan to... Dec 22 2013, 12:29 PM Jetsetsurfshop
I like the installation, why not just add a fan t... Dec 22 2013, 01:03 PM Seabird
Check out the first picture. Its kinda "wedg... Dec 22 2013, 01:21 PM brant I think the fan will help too
although some say a... Dec 22 2013, 01:50 PM Jetsetsurfshop
I think the fan will help too
although some say ... Dec 22 2013, 05:07 PM Racer Chris I disagree about adding the fan, unless it moves a... Dec 24 2013, 11:32 AM Jetsetsurfshop Duct work May 27 2014, 09:35 AM veekry9
Duct work
Remarkably similar to the P51 belly s... May 27 2014, 08:35 PM Jetsetsurfshop Tubing May 27 2014, 09:36 AM Jetsetsurfshop To the cooler. There is also a air duct on the low... May 27 2014, 09:38 AM Racer Chris What does the inlet side of the cooler look like? May 27 2014, 10:15 AM Jetsetsurfshop Here you go Chris. Screens are not installed yet i... May 27 2014, 10:26 AM Racer Chris I meant where the ducts end at the face of the coo... May 27 2014, 10:39 AM Jetsetsurfshop
I meant where the ducts end at the face of the co... May 27 2014, 10:58 AM brant nice work....
I built something similar for my tr... May 27 2014, 11:05 AM Jetsetsurfshop
nice work....
I built something similar for my t... May 27 2014, 11:23 AM brant I think your lack of the 90 turn is only going to ... May 27 2014, 12:01 PM Seabird I was under the impression that the tumbling air u... May 28 2014, 07:51 AM Jetsetsurfshop
I was under the impression that the tumbling air ... May 28 2014, 09:40 AM Seabird
I was under the impression that the tumbling air... May 28 2014, 09:41 AM brant you have a great bunch of teeners out there...
tim... May 28 2014, 10:26 AM Jetsetsurfshop New bumper exit. I think I've been building up... Jun 15 2014, 09:02 AM ablesnead Shane that screening reduces airflow about 30 perc... Jun 15 2014, 09:26 AM Jetsetsurfshop
Shane that screening reduces airflow about 30 per... Jun 15 2014, 09:34 AM Jetsetsurfshop Took the screen off and added brackets to hold the... Jun 15 2014, 11:18 AM Seabird
Took the screen off and added brackets to hold th... Jun 15 2014, 05:30 PM Jetsetsurfshop
Took the screen off and added brackets to hold t... Jun 15 2014, 05:56 PM Seabird Cool, I am going to try and bring mine too.
Oil, ... Jun 15 2014, 06:12 PM brant Shane,
in the olden days when 914's ruled th... Jun 15 2014, 04:51 PM Jetsetsurfshop Brant,
Would you change anything on your oil coole... Jun 15 2014, 05:36 PM brant
Brant,
Would you change anything on your oil cool... Jun 16 2014, 11:29 AM brant here is my EX race car...
the cooling is great
I h... Jun 16 2014, 05:16 PM Jetsetsurfshop
question 2) I also have some oil on the top of t... Aug 4 2014, 06:11 PM Jetsetsurfshop Oil cooler update. (so far)
Working on the plumbin... Oct 30 2014, 07:02 PM carr914 I did the Heater Channels - worked out pretty goo... Oct 30 2014, 08:37 PM Racer Chris I used a hole saw to create an opening at the insi... Oct 31 2014, 07:37 AM Jetsetsurfshop I got both lines to work. Thanks guys. Nov 2 2014, 06:04 PM ThePaintedMan Is there any downside to running them as Shane has... Nov 2 2014, 09:05 PM Racer Chris I think it works ok that way but there is a better... Nov 3 2014, 03:45 PM ThePaintedMan Enough for water lines too? :idea: :D Nov 3 2014, 03:50 PM Racer Chris
Enough for water lines too? :idea: :D
Two dash... Nov 3 2014, 04:11 PM Jetsetsurfshop 2 -12 are tight. It would be hard to get the next ... Nov 3 2014, 06:31 PM |
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